Horace Warner HASTINGS

[Tensixty6]

I managed to get a copy of Horace's Death Certificate today. It indicates that he was born in Brighton in 1867. His fathers name was Richard and his mother Maria Postlewhaite. My apologies for supplying incorrect information at the start of this thread.

[WDHSR]

Hello Christopher! My name is Scott Andrew Hastings b 1984, direct descendant of Horace Warner.

As it happens, I have a degree in history and have spent the last three months tracing my direct ancestors.

Like you, i had record that Horace's parents were Richard Hastings and Maria Postlewhaite

Horace lived in Ballarat East where he had several children before moving to Melbourne where he had my direct ancestor, Frank Launcelot Hastings. Your information is correct that he married Phoebe Smith.

Frank was a soldier in WWI with the 32nd Australian battalion, which saw action in 1917-1918 in the areas of Passchendale and Ypres, both in Belgium. He died in 1990 and was cremated, the marker is at Springvale. If possible I suggest you look up Springvale Botanical Cemetery as many Hastings and relatives are in there. Frank's son was also Frank, my grandfather.

I will keep you posted with anything more I can find about Horace, Richard, Maria Postlewhaite, or Phoebe Smith.

[suzard]

age differs -but could this be Horace??
and maybe he added "Hastings" to his name when he went to Australia???
1871
Park St
Brighton Sussex
Richard Warner head M 43 general lab Brighton Sussex
Maria wife 46 Somertown London
Horace son 8 scholar Brighton Sussex
Frank son 6 Brighton Sussex
RG10 1075 50 10

so if this is the correct Horace -he possibly named his son Frank after his brother?

Suz

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this looks like Richard and Maria

1851
124 Edward St Brighton Sussex
Edward Postlethwaite Head M 43 Hair Dresser (Master) Brighton Sussex
Amelia wife  Upholsteress 43 Middlesex London
Charles son 12 Brighton Sussex
Richard son 5mth Brighton Sussex
RICHARD WARNER son in law Married 22 Painter Brighton Sussex
MARIA WARNER daughter married 21 Bonnet Maker Middlesex London
Richard Ernest Warner grandson 1mth Brighton Sussex
HO107 1644 160

Suz

[suzard]

by 1861 Edward Postlethwaite had died

1861
142 Edward Rd Brighton Sussex
Amelia Postlethwaite Head widow 52 Upholstress Mx London
Charles son Married 22 Hair Dresser Brighton Sussex
Martha daughter in law married 27 Brighton
Amelia M grasnddaughter 3mths Brighton
RG9 591 24 41

There is a death reg FreeB\md
Richard Edward Postlethwaite Sept qtr 1853 Brighton 2b 89

could this be Edward's death reg? and he used his middle name on census??

Death reg freeBMD
Amelia Postlethwaite Sept qtr 1881 Brighton 2b 101

Suz

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here's Amelia with one of Richard Warner  and Maria's children

1871
142 Edward Rd Brighton Sussex
Amelia Postlethwaite Head widow 62 Newsagent St Clements London
Maria Warner granddaughter 17 scholar Brighton
RG10 1072 15 24

1881
142 Edward Rd Brighton Sussex
Amelia Postlethwaite Mother widow no occ 73
Charles Postlethwaite Head widower Hair Dresser
Ellen Postlethwaite daughter 18 assistant

all b Brighton
RG11 1076 22 38

Suz

[suzard]

Here's Richard Warner and Maria
1861
49 George St Brighton
Richard Warner head M 31 Photographer Brighton Sussex
Maria wife 31 Somers Town London
Maria C daughter 7 scholar Brighton
Emma daughter 1 Brighton
Hannah Lingham Lodger W 59 Invalid Nurse Wartling Sussex
RG9 592 128 12

Richard in 1841?
Sun? St Brighton Sussex
Richard Warner 50 no
Esther 40 no
William 16 shoe M app yes
RICHARD 14 yes
William Warner 51 Porter  No
HO107 112 11 7 7

Looks like Richard died quite young

Death reg FreeBMD
Richard Warner
Mar qtr 1875
age 47
Brighton
2b 149

Suz

[suzard]

1881 Horace was living with his married sister

Marriage
26 Jan 1879 Brighton Sussex
Kate maria Warner age 23
father Richard Warner
William Watson age 20
father Thomas Warner

1881
Wichelo Place Brighton Sussex
William Watson Head M 22 Coppersmith on Railway
Kate maria wife 24
Thomas son 1
HORACE WARNER brother in law 19 Meter Maker Gas Works
all b Brighton
RG11 1084 58 18

I cannot find Horace after this census ?

His brother Frank was a servant in 1881 census - he then went on to marry and called his first son Horace!!!

Maybe Horace knocked a few years off his age to join the army

I think the sister he lives with in 1881 had knocked a few years off her age -poss cos of younger husband???

Hope this helps

Suz

[suzard]

I have found theses baptisms on familysearch

All to parents Richard and Maria Warner
6 Nov 1853 St Nicholas brighton
Maria Christiana Warner (possibly she is Kate Maria in 1881 ??)

Maude warner 7 dec 1856 St Nicholas Brighton

Emma Jane Warner 2 Oct 1859 St Nicholas Brighton

Richard Erneast Warner5  Oct 1851 Brighton

Horace warner
Frank Warner
5 Mar 1865 St John Brighton

also -possibly Maria Postlethwaite was really maria Batchelor??

FreeBMD shows Maria Batchelor on same page as Richard Warner

family search shows
Marriage
14 April 1849
St Nicholas Brighton Sussex
Richard Warner  father Richard warner
Maria Batchelor no father's name given

so maybe Maria was illegit daughter of Amelia  -who married Edward Postlethwaite??

Wonder if Horace was in some kind of trouble - so he added another surname and altered his age It has been done before??
Suz