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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #18 on: Monday 08 July 19 21:29 BST (UK) »

 
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1. 12.1.1.  Malcolm Hamilton Cathcart  [James father] b 1736 Persfield West Meath m Miss Humphreys dau of Edward Humphrey of Dublin.   Who was he?  influential for barristers
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Papers relating to a marriage settlement, Malcolm Cathcart and Elizabeth Humfrey, July 1757, 

Dublin: Public Record Office, M.5444 (1-3)

Edward Humfrey of Dublin died 1760, Will proven 1763 in which he names his wife, Anne,  son Rolleston, dau Anne Maria married to Robnett, and his dau Elizabeth married to Cathcart ( marriage settlement, Malcolm Cathcart and Elizabeth Humfrey, July 1757)

 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSMQ-K9BW-N?i=531&cat=185720 and next page.)

you then have the Deed 163500  Rolleston Humfrey to Cathcart in Mt Murray
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-WJ98?i=37&cat=185720


Edward Humfrey of Dublin who died 1760 had siblings Arthur (Will to his son Rolleston!), Harry, Francis, John**, Rolleston (d. 1747, Will proven 23 Oct 1748), Katharin and Anne all children of Henry Humfrey/Ms. Cotham of Port Cournan (?), Co Westmeath, with Henry d. 4 July 1709, Will proven 29 July 1709


John**.. has children Henry, Thomas, Herbert, Catherine ( married Richard Nugent) and Elizabeth (married Alderman Daniel Cook)
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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #19 on: Monday 08 July 19 21:31 BST (UK) »
Cathcart Registered Deeds

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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #20 on: Monday 08 July 19 21:51 BST (UK) »
"Edward Humfrey of Dublin died 1760, Will proven 1763 in which he names his wife, Anne,  son Rolleston, dau Anne Maria married to Robnett,..."

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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #21 on: Monday 08 July 19 22:17 BST (UK) »
"Edward Humfrey of Dublin died 1760, Will proven 1763 in which he names his wife, Anne,  son Rolleston, dau Anne Maria married to Robnett,..."

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Links Fermanagh to Westmeath!  ;D
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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #22 on: Monday 08 July 19 23:05 BST (UK) »
Just looked up the Will (as per deeds posted ) registered in Dublin.....

Strange Will!  ;D

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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 11:08 BST (UK) »
My last thoughts.  The original quest was to connect James Cathcart Leeds comedian back to ireland, he appears to be James (Leander) Cathcart b 1800 or b 1807 apparently  trained to be a barrister in Dublin. Dublinís University was Trinity College so he would not have admitted to their law school until after say 1823 and married before 1832 , so there is a 9 year gap to find his existence/admittance to do a law degree, his digs or wherever he stayed in Dublin.
During that time period 1823-1832
I tried unsuccessfully a general search on Trinity College Trhttps://www.tcd.ie/search/q/?q=cathcart&x=0&y=0&entqr=0&ud=1&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&oe=UTF-8&ie=ISO-8859-1&client=default_frontend&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&site=default_collection&tcdsearchcollection=alltcd&tcdsearchq=cathcart&start=30
there is an Alumini which includes admissions BUT I could not find my way onto it, appears to be pub 1926

Using online street directories. almanacks etc
Wilson 1820 source several [I was looking forCathcarts in Dublin]
Eliza Cathcart boarding school  65 Stephen Street [see the entries same address for Attorneys below
Wilson 1830  [ I didnít find a Wilsons for say 1831 -2 listed anywhere ]https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89096950837&view=1up&seq=10
SECTIONS tried
Barristers at law with dates of Admission
The name Cathcart has no entries
Nobility and gentry
The name Cathcart has no entries
Attorneys
Cathcart RN KCE 65 Stephen s. Attorneys KCE Solicitorsdenotes which Court they belonged to
Cathcart R KCE 65 Upper Stephen street.Attorney
Robert Jonesand son & Cathcart   KCE  21 Peter Street [looks interesting]
so the link to England remains unproven

So James could have joined a surname sakes solicitors
So James could have been admitted to law school
there is no evidence yet he finished law school
on the basis of the 1830 Wilson lists, he is not named as a barrister
on the basis of Wilson lists after 1830, he could be named as a barrister
there is no evidence yet he became a barrister
if he did become a barrister and was given no work, so turning away from his previous career he might have started being a comedian in Dublin.
perhaps a newspaper index might find his first marriage
so the link to England remains unproven
the most likely connection already given by Hallmark re NLI citations
An interesting person
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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 11:27 BST (UK) »
Maybe qualified at King's Inns Dublin?
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 11:48 BST (UK) »
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Re: James Leander Cathcart
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 11:58 BST (UK) »
I have more than I can find hidden in old files from my Cathcart searches but I stumbled on this through wikipedia after researching meanings and uses of Faucit in addition to Rolleston and Leander.
A short biog. but perhaps you can contact the author aand bloggista Norma Hampson, heers, Ian
https://www.shakespeare.org.uk/explore-shakespeare/blogs/james-leander-cathcart-visits-birthplace/