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Gypsy Names?
« on: Thursday 19 November 09 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me if the names Cooper, Barker and Noble are known gypsy names, they came from around the North Yorkshire area. Thanks Sorcha

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Re: Gypsy Names?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 November 09 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Cooper is def a gypsy name here in the South West.  Not sure about the others.
Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills

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Re: Gypsy Names?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 November 09 15:58 GMT (UK) »
.....And, Bob Dawson lists both Barker and Noble as pretty well spread  ;)

Barker, he found in Yorkshire, among other places. Noble he has down for NTH, and a very long time ago. But, there it is. Perhaps others can expand on that?
GAITES (Alverstoke / Bath Pre 1850)
CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')


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« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 November 09 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou both for your replies I will check out Bob Dawsons site Sorcha x

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 November 09 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Sorcha; Unless ye want to buy his book, " A Romany in the Family " ....? He doesn't list the information on his site.

 Expect a PM, now that I'm less rushed ;)
GAITES (Alverstoke / Bath Pre 1850)
CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 November 09 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Yeah Steve I just realised that!!!! Sorcha x

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Re: Gypsy Names?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 November 09 20:36 GMT (UK) »
hey steve i just noticed yoiur grandmother was a burge from somerset hampshire etc., are you sure it was burge or could it have been birch/burch?
just wondering as we have so many birches(my line)in those areas.cathayb
birchs taylors penfold orchard hughes all romany gypsies in the west country

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 November 09 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Cathay; When I was younger (Much younger ..... God almighty; So Much Younger!  ;D) I plainly recall the moment when I asked my Gt. Aunt if it was Burge or 'Burch' / Birch. She was quite categoric: BURGE.

 Her mother, 'Polly Burge', in my avatar there, married Bill HUNTLEY. My Gt. Aunt recalled her days travelling with them. One of her brothers being born in a stable, somewhere outside of Chichester.

 Through some of Polly's siblings, I've got Their parents down as a Burge from the west country. And there the trail goes cold.

 However, there's a man out there who has his own line of Burge back to the stone age and down to tomorrow. We've compared notes and excrutiatingly strong 'circumstantial' evidence cries out that his and mine are the same line. Hundreds of Burge's out there. But our lines walk and talk like a very particular duck. Quite distinct from the others.

 One more generation back and I'm sure we could make the clasp. I have kids who are probably Polly's aunts and uncles to be. But, my trail's gone cold

GAITES (Alverstoke / Bath Pre 1850)
CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')

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Re: Gypsy Names?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 December 09 19:30 GMT (UK) »
Cooper is def a gypsy name here in the South West.  Not sure about the others.
  :o one of my ancestors was john cooper a gypsy hawker,born 1863 in Hampshire but spent there lives in Devon .
his  wife was called Louisa. they travelled with the Burr family but records are hard to come by as they never registered births or marriages.any info on either of them would be welcome.or goodwin family who were gypsys
thank you