COMPLETE 1871 census look up - GUTHRIE

[Chiad Fhear]

I have just put a post up on the Occupations Board,for the occ of Cramar (mer cervil),I have racked my brain and hubbies also, but we cannot think what type of occ that was, any ideas

Fiona ... you obviously got this occupation from A*******.co.uk who, I've found, are notorious for just copying down what words looks like on the Census Register page(s) 

I think you'll find is should read "Seaman (Mer Service) ... 'Mer' being the abreviation for 'Merchant'

Regards 

Chiad Fhear

[fiona g]

Hi Chiad Fhear

After a request for a census look up,as I do not have an A.sub,a kind Rootschatter posted census info for me with the info containing occ as Cramar (mer Cervil),presumably from A*. With the help of other Rootschatters now found occ of a Cramer as being a stall holder/pedlar. I agree and had thought myself "mer cervil" as being Merchant Service and as my ancestor in1859 (on his sons marriage record) occ was given as Sailor think Merchant Service is correct,occ on his death record 1876 as Vintner. I think Cramer is highly likely as ancestor lived in a fishing village and would have all from the sea to sell, not so sure about a Cramer being in the Merchant Service though . Have you seen the census and it looks like Seaman to you.

Fiona

[Chiad Fhear]

Hi again Fiona

No, I haven't seen the actual Census - but having looked at umpteen A* 'offerings' I've found quite a number of them to be 'questionable' - but if you could scan and upload the section where his occupation is shown, then it would be easier to help you.

Regards

Chiad Fhear

[fiona g]

wish I could but alas I do not have A* sub,info was from a request I asked for, a look up for the 1861/71 census. I think it does make sense in what you are suggesting occ as Seaman given Walter was a Sailor in 1859 but since the word Cramer has been mentioned that also could make sense given Largo was a fishing village,although I had never heard of a Cramer before and now knowing the meaning, it is feasible. Would  love to know the answer

Fiona

[Chiad Fhear]

Hi Fiona

This is your lucky day   St Andrews University has a full Fife Census collection on microfilm so I popped in earlier and got a copy of the page in question from 1861

My theory about A* was correct as you'll see from the enlarged secton of the page (attached here)

Interestingly there were a number of Guthrie families in the same Enumeration District as Walter and family and the 'Head' was mainly shown as 'Fisherman'.  One was a 'Weaver'.

Hope this answers your question

Regards

Chiad Fhear

PS  I will send the full page to you by PM

[fiona g]

many thanks Chaid Fhear for 1861 census with occ as Seaman Merchant Service.

Fiona

[Chiad Fhear]

Glad to have been able to help you Fiona

Regards

Chiad Fhear

[fiona g]

Hi Don

Welcome to Rootschat

any particular Guthrie family from Largo you are interested in ?

Fiona

[Hautere Don]

Hi Fiona,

My great grandfather Henry was born in Largo in 1837. I have some of the family tree back from there to Walter (b 1807) and Henry (b.1781) m Elizabeth Lundy. Nothing prior to that though. I have some information on Henry (b.1837) and descendents that was given to me by a family member who researched it all some years ago that I could share - or maybe this will all be recorded here already?

Sorry for the numpty questions but I'm completely new to all this - is there a database of Guthries somewhere I could view or download? I just tripped across this forum in a Google search, haven't explored the rest of it yet...

Cheers