Turnell - Brewin Marriage, Wigston 1805

[BumbleB]

So, is the Joseph Brewin, hosier, who marries Ann Turner of Worsbro' Bridge on 3 January 1836 at Sheffield Cathedral, the son of Joseph and Ruth?

[DCB]

There is an announcement on 9th January 1836 in The Sheffield Independent which states that Joseph Turnell, Hosier, married Ann Turner of Worsbro' Bridge.

There are other records of a Joseph Turnell, a relieving officer in Sheffield.

The Relieving Officer with wife, Annie, was born in Leicester in 1815 - 1851 census.

The death notice for Ruth states 'on 12th inst., at Scarborough, Ruth, widow of Mr. Joseph Turnell, hosier, age, 68 years.

I can't find Joseph and Annie on the 1841 census either, so perhaps some records are missing.

David

[DCB]

Joseph Turnell, widower of Ann, married again on 16th March 1857 in Sheffield, to Charlotte Fishbourne. He was a licenced victualler, son of Joseph, a Hosier.

David

[warwickb]

Thank you BumbleB and DCB, your replies are much appreciated.
Responding in order:
- Yes I had found Ruth but Joseph snr obviously dies between 1837 and 1851 and I'm suspecting between 1837 and 1840 prior to daughters Ruth and Martha emigrating to NZ.
- Yes that will be the eldest of the four sons (Joseph, Isaac, John and Thomas). But I didn't have his middle name which matches the naming of the younger two children (Martha Brewin Turnell - my 2ggm and Thomas Brewin Turnell). I had Ann but not her surname.
- I have Joseph jnr & Ann in the 1841C in Watery St, North Sheffield and have tracked him in Census's up to an including 1871. But can't locate death for Joseph senior or 1841C for Joseph snr and Ruth.

The lack of death registration surprises me given post 1837.
Cheers
Warwick

[warwickb]

There is an announcement on 9th January 1836 in The Sheffield Independent which states that Joseph Turnell, Hosier, married Ann Turner of Worsbro' Bridge.

There are other records of a Joseph Turnell, a relieving officer in Sheffield.

The Relieving Officer with wife, Annie, was born in Leicester in 1815 - 1851 census.

The death notice for Ruth states 'on 12th inst., at Scarborough, Ruth, widow of Mr. Joseph Turnell, hosier, age, 68 years.

I can't find Joseph and Annie on the 1841 census either, so perhaps some records are missing.

David

David - hi again. Another quick question - can you please confirm what month Ruth died in 1852/ Cheers Warwick

[DCB]

Sorry, I meant to include the newspaper details - 20 February 1852 in The Hull Advertiser and Exchange Gazette.

The last few records for Joseph Jnr.

Nominations for Guardians for the Sheffield Union - Sheffield Independent 27th March 1876
Joseph Turnell, Broomhill, Wine and Spirit Merchant.

Ditto
Sheffield Independent 14 April 1876
Joseph Turnell, Fullwod Road, wine merchant.

Sheffield Independent - 7th April 1883
Sale of goods by Joseph Turnell - wine and sherry etc.

Sheffield Independent - 23 August 1884
Mentione Joseph Turnell deceased.

Died Q1 1884 Ecclesall Bierlow age 68

1881
441, Glossop Road, Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire
Joseph Turnell Head 67 1814 Retired Wine & Spirit Merchant Leicester
Charlotte Turnell Wife 62 1819 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Martha Knutt Servant Single Female 46 1835 General Serv Domestic Sheffield
Mary Howard Servant Single Female 18 1863 General Serv Domestic

David

[DCB]

There is a will of Joseph Turnell, of Leicester, executor Ruth Turnell, late of Sheffield, in 1829, but I can't find a burial, unless mistranscibed - e.g. as Turner.

I think Ruth may be in St Thomas Street, Sheffield in 1841. She is independent with her age overwritten and could be 55, rather than 35.

The Joseph in the directories might be junior because he was also a hosier on his marriage record.

Index To Death Duty Registers 1796-1903
Joseph Turnell
Death year 1829
County Yorkshire
Court Pcc and Country Courts
Residence SHEFFIELD
National Archives reference IR27/211

Joseph Turnell
Date: 1829, MAY
Place: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Country: England
Court: York Prerogative & Exchequer Courts
Court detail: Exchequer Court of York
Document type: Will
Document reference: vol.179, f.
Index reference   1827011830100305.tif/7
Document ordering: https://www.york.ac.uk/borthwick/remote-services/copying/order-form/   

David

[Jomot]

There is a will of Joseph Turnell, of Leicester, executor Ruth Turnell, late of Sheffield, in 1829, but I can't find a burial, unless mistranscibed - e.g. as Turner.

Leicester burial CD has Joseph Turnell aged 52 buried on 5 Dec 1828 at Harvey Lane Baptist, Leicester

[DCB]

Thanks Jomot. These links add some more information about the chapel, destroyed by fire in 1921

http://www.digitalengagementnetwork.org/museumswork/2011/11/05/careys-house-of-memories/

http://www.blueplaqueplaces.co.uk/william-carey-blue-plaque-in-leicester-1499#.XE8mrVX7SM8

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/leics/vol4/pp390-394 mentions the chapel

David