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Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE - - - - COMPLETED
« on: Tuesday 05 January 10 01:08 GMT (UK) »
Thomas lived at Axe Creek in 1867 and Strathfieldsaye (aka Sandhurst) in 1900 when he died.

Had a son Thomas (who managed to shoot his arm off on a hunting trip.)

Thomas Jr later managed the vineyard, and was fined for an illegal wine additive.  His business partner was later thought to be murdered on the property. 

What we know of Thomas and his descendants are at    www.tayles.com.au   (search Craike at top RH corner)

We DO NOT KNOW that Thomas himself immigrated.  We just can't find any ancestors.

Thanks in anticipation.

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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 03:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi inept,
Have you got a copy of Thomas' will. It is listed of VIC PROV
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_details.asp?searchid=54&id=82311
Thomas CRAIKE File number 74/830 Death Date 12.2.1900 Grant date : 27.4.1900
Occupation Vigneron.Axe Creek

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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 06:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
A Thomas Craik arrived Nov 1852 at Port Phillip Bay, b 1821, makes the age a bit off as per the death but he could have told his wife he was younger.

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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Inept [I'm sure you're not ;) ;D]I can't seem to access any CRAIKE in the top rh corner of the linked website.

Thomas's death registration gives his parents' names - there may be more information on the cert eg place of birth, time in Australia.

CRAIKE Thomas
Father Craike Thomas  Mother Margaret MACDOUGAL
66 years  at Strathfieldsaye   1900  Reg#3752

From IGI
CRAIKE  Thomas
Birth   2 Mar 1834   
Baptism  14 Mar 1834  Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England
Father  Thomas  CRAIKE    Mother Margaret

The age for this Thomas b. c1833 - could well be him.
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
CRAIKE Thos   29 years   Arrived Jun 1862  EUREKA From Port N= New Zealand    Pge 032    Fiche 008

His marriage in 1859 and birth of Thomas in 1864 would also have his place of birth.

CRAIKE Thomas
BREWSTER Margery
1859    Reg#1025


CRAIKE Thomas
Father Thomas  Mother Margery BREWSTER
At Strathfieldsaye  1864  Reg#11374

Strathfieldsaye is still known as such....it is shown on googlemaps :)

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Cando

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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 14:08 GMT (UK) »
We've got a great team working here, thanks.

Alison, that's our Thomas, thank you. The link to imagineering is broken now, but I'll try it again tomorrow.

mum mum, thanks for the suggestion, but I think it may be a different strand.  There are quite a few other Craiks out  here, but I've found no cross-pollination with our lot as yet.

Cando, sorry about my incomplete instructions.    www.tayles.com.au   opens up our 'home' page.  Click on [HERE] to get to our tree, then in the search box at the top RH corner type Craike, or better still, I7011, (letter I, 7011) which takes you straight to our man-of-the-moment Thomas.

If you then click on [Map], the embedded GoogleMap shows you the locations Thomas frequented.  At the LHS is the Zoom Zipper, so after clicking the [Satellite] button you can zoom in and see how Thomas' old vineyard was looking before the drought.  When these Google photos were taken, it was green, and Lake Eppalock was about 30% full.  It's been down to less than 5% for the past few years.

Yes, I was back-to-front re Sandhurst/Strathfieldsaye.  The whole Bendigo town area was called Sandhurst back in the mid 1800s, but not now (except for some business names).  Some of The Argus articles refer to Thomas as being from Sandhurst.  Should you also look at Thomas Jr (I7017), you can read about the Ash Murder Mystery in his hut at Strathfieldsaye.

Thanks, Cando, for all your pointers.

Again, I thank everyone for all for your help.  I'll poke it all into the tree tomorrow night.

Good night,
inept
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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 20:22 GMT (UK) »

The age for this Thomas b. c1833 - could well be him.

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
CRAIKE Thos   29 years   Arrived Jun 1862  EUREKA From Port N= New Zealand    Pge 032    Fiche 008

If this is your Thomas I wonder how long he was in New Zealand?

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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 21:53 GMT (UK) »
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5717159?searchTerm=shipping+eureka+1862

Charges against the Master of the ship shows that the EUREKA sailed from Otago.

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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 22:57 GMT (UK) »
We DO NOT KNOW that Thomas himself immigrated.  We just can't find any ancestors.

Possible siblings - from the same batch on IGI - all with parents Thomas CRAIKE and Margaret.

CRAIKE Rachel Mary 
Baptised 21 Dec 1825 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey

CRAIKE Frances
Baptised 26 Dec 1827  Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey

CRAIKE William 
Baptised 19 Jan 1831 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey

I can't find them on the 1841 census - surname probably mistranscribed.

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Re: Immigration - Thomas CRAIKE
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 23:22 GMT (UK) »
The only Thomas CRAIKE b. c1834 England I can find is -

1851 Census Scotland
Parish Sprouston ED 1 Pge 9 Line 13 Roll 754
Easter Softlaw, Sprouston, Roxburghshire 
CRAIKE Thomas  58 years   Farmer  Born England
CRAIKE Margaret  46 years Wife of above b. Kelso Roxburghshire
CRAIKE Thomas 17 years  Son  Born England
CRAIKE* Helen 13 years  Dau Born England
CRAIKE* Charles 11 years Son  Born England
CRAIKE William D  7 years  Son  Born Yetholm, Roxburghshire
SCOTT  John T  19 years
WILSON Margaret  63 years

*Births Jun quarter  1838   
CRAIKE Hellen  St Saviours    4/425

*Births Jun 1840   
CRAIKE Charles  St.Saviours 4/445

There is an 1841 census entry for a Rachel CRAIKE aged 15 on IOW, not born county and a subsequent marriage in 1849 for a Rachel Mary CRAIKE on IOW.  You can see for that yourself on freebdm.

Cando

Edit to add birth info
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