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Re: Coopers from and to .... all over the place !
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Right...here's Fred the Verger... and just coz I ca, I'm gonna go backwards with him ;D ;D

1891 Census England London St John the Evangelist Westminster
RG12/78/14/21
23 Tufton Street

COOPER
Frederick Head Marr 74 Retired Verger London Marylebone
Theresa Wife Marr 67 Hertfordshire Rickmansworth
Ernest W Grandson Unmarr 20 Postman Suffolk Blaxall
William H LIGHT Boarder Unmarr 22 Brewer's Clerk Somerset Bath


1881 Census England London St John the Evangelist Westminster
RG11/111/90/36
23 Tufton Street

COOPER
Frederick Head Marr 64 Verger Middlesex Marylebone
Theresa Wife Marr 57 Hertfordshire Rickmansworth
Ernest William Grandson Unmarr 10 Scholar Suffolk Blaxall


They married in 1858 so should be on the 1861 but as yet I can't find them.

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Re: Coopers from and to .... all over the place !
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 00:45 GMT (UK) »
these Coopers are the bane of my life

had to larf at that. Mrs Earleybird looks after an elderly lady whose favourite sentence is
" that cat is the bane of my life!" ;D

I've followed this thread with mounting interest and wonder if your Coopers and Mine are related ?
Most seem to be born in or around Westminster/ St George Hanover Sq .between 1850 and 1911 Maybe we could compare notes  ;)
Whitchurch, Westminster / Buckinghamshire
Cooper,     Westminster
Pollard     Surrey
Earley,  Holborn London
Bruce,  London
Kangeisser  London
Lawlor, Widnes Lancashire
Hagan   Widnes Lancashire

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Re: Coopers from and to .... all over the place !
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 00:54 GMT (UK) »


In 1861 I can find a Frederick COOPER married to an Amy from Rickmansworth.

Could this be Theresa??  Did she have a middle name... or ... heaven forbid... was there another sister Amy?? :o

earley-bird.... pretty much all of it is here on this thread..... ;D

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« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 00:55 GMT (UK) »


Tell us who you have earlybird ... and we'll tell you if we have them !!  ;D
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Re: Coopers from and to .... all over the place !
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 01:01 GMT (UK) »


In 1861 I can find a Frederick COOPER married to an Amy from Rickmansworth.

Could this be Theresa??  Did she have a middle name... or ... heaven forbid... was there another sister Amy?? :o


Karenlee

Please no !  :P ... see I keep saying Karenlee ... my intention was to just do direct line ... but then I get sidetracked with all the brothers and sisters and we're not just talking one or two brothers and sisters ... theres boatloads of them in every family !!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)

So to answer your question about Amy .... we have Elizabeth ( direct line ) back to 1580 ... NOT the whole kit and kaboobble of them !!
Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

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Re: Coopers from and to .... all over the place !
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 01:08 GMT (UK) »


It was just kind of confusing is all... I mean, we have them in 1881 with a 10 year old grandson, but they only married in 1858.  So to my way of thinking, Theresa must have been wife #2 at least.  So perhaps Frederick only had children with whoever wife #1 was....

The Amy and Fred that I found turn out to be COWPER not COOPER....  :(
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« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 01:14 GMT (UK) »
Please no !  :P ... see I keep saying Karenlee ... my intention was to just do direct line ... but then I get sidetracked with all the brothers and sisters and we're not just talking one or two brothers and sisters ... theres boatloads of them in every family !!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)

So to answer your question about Amy .... we have Elizabeth ( direct line ) back to 1580 ... NOT the whole kit and kaboobble of them !!

So does this mean you want me to stop ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 01:17 GMT (UK) »


And of course the Grandson could have been born anywhere !!  ::)

EDIT .... H*** no ! ... this is too exciting !!  ;D ;D ;D ( ..... only if you're fed up !!  :-\ )

EDIT # 2 ... wonder which church he was Verger at ??  ::)
Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

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« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 01:18 GMT (UK) »


Tell us who you have earlybird ... and we'll tell you if we have them !!  ;D

how about these ?
3 Romney Street.
1901


James W Cooper 41  Westminster  Head  St John and St Margaret     Carman
Jane L Cooper     39  Westminster  Wife  St J & St M    Charwoman
William J Cooper 19  Westminster Son  St J & St M     Carman
Frederick Cooper 17  Westminster Son  St J & St M   Carman
Annie Cooper      15  Westminster Daughter  St J & St M  
Ellen J Cooper     10  Westminster Daughter  St J & St M  
Edith E Cooper     4  Westminster  Daughter  St J & St M  
Miriam Cooper      8  Westminster  Daughter  St J & St M    
 RG13/91
Registration district    St George Hanover Square  
Sub-registration district   St Margaret and St John  
Folio 39  
Page 39
schedule number   336

or these
1891
33 Neal , St Giles in the Fields  London

William H  Cooper      (29)  Denton, Warwickshire 
 Anna R Cooper         (30) St Giles, London 
 Annie Sarah Cooper (6) St Giles, London
 William J Cooper      (7) St Giles, London
 Albert A Cooper       (4) Portsmouth
Mary S Cooper         (2) Portsmouth

or maybe these in 1871
14 Victoria Yard, Chelsea

RG10/77
Registration district Chelsea         Sub-reg Chelsea South
 Folio 71 page 45
 

William G Cooper   33    St G Hanover Square Head   
Susan Cooper         31    Westminster Wife
James W Cooper   11    Westminster Son   
John Cooper             9    Westminster Son   
Susan Cooper           5    Westminster Daughter   
Elizabeth Cooper       2    WestminsterDaughter   
Whitchurch, Westminster / Buckinghamshire
Cooper,     Westminster
Pollard     Surrey
Earley,  Holborn London
Bruce,  London
Kangeisser  London
Lawlor, Widnes Lancashire
Hagan   Widnes Lancashire

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