John CLEAVER (CLEVER)

[valandnorma]

John married Mary Turner 26th JUly 1763 at Leighton Buzzard source IGI.Now trying to find their births but no luck. Could anybody please suggest where to go next?  Thank you.

[bedfordshire boy]

Welcome to Rootschat

You need to check the entry in the parish register:
- to see if a parish of residence other than Leighton Buzzard is given;
- to get the names of the witnesses to see if they provide a clue;
- and to see if John was a widower as I see there was also a 1749 marriage of a John Clever in LB

Two John Cleavers were buried in LB in 1736 so there were Cleavers in the parish

Come on Tazzie, where are you? I'm only an amateur when it comes to LB

David

[tazzie]

   Hello   I am here now .....

  Ok ...  for a first marriage I wonder if he could even be from Wing which is within walking distance..... well downhill otherway round can be a killer!

  John Clever bapt 1744 1 Jan father Samuel mother Martha.
  I cannot see him marrying in Wing up to 1775.

  David I get very little time to get to Leighton at the moment alas.
 Leighton draws a large number in from villages across the Bucks border so hopefully the PR may have something.
  An Ann Clever who would be sister to the above one born Wing marries in Wing.
                  Tazzie

[johnP-bedford]

Hello Val & Norma - welcome to RootsChat.... & hello David / Tazzie

OK I wish John had not been so clever to marry Mary - perhaps twice

The 26 July 1763 marriage does not offer more than their names - it does not state that John is a widower - but I suggest he was.

The 11 Oct 1749 marriage of John Clever to Mary Emerton says that they were both of Leighton Buzzard

John & Mary #1 baptised & buried a set of children between 1750 & 1760 that state John is a labourer; & then I find the burial of Mary wife of John Clever, labourer on 4 Nov 1760. Shortly after that 2 more burials in 1761 of Ellen & then Ann, daughters of John Clever. The burials all tie in with baptisms - if you want details let me know.

John & Mary #2 baptised & buried children between 1764 & 1777 repeating names of those who died in the previous partnership.

As to your question regarding the origins of John & Mary I have no idea.

regards John

[valandnorma]

Thank you all for replying . Sorry we haven't answered before  - we only do this on Mondays!
John, we think you must be right that John Clever married twice. Please let us have the details you mention. Thanks again.

[johnP-bedford]

Children of John & Mary Clever

Joseph  baptised 21/07/1750   buried 26/12/1750
Mary     baptised 17/11/1751
Joseph  baptised 8/3/1754    buried 28/2/1754
John     baptised 2/3/1760     buried 24/6/1760
Ann      baptised 24/8/1755   buried 19/4/1761
Ellen     baptised 5/8/1757     buried 27/1/1761

John  baptsed 13/2/1765
Ellen  baptised 11/10/1768
Sarah  1770
William  1773
Ann  1775
Ann  1777

Sorry - did not write down all of them - you should find baptisms on the IGI

Regards John

[valandnorma]

Dear John,

Thank you for all the information. We will get the other baptisms from the IGI.  Thanks again.

valandnorma