Toni*s (OH) Scavenger Hunt - Part 2...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[Spidermonkey]

Also, why would a brother of Warren, write to Ellen?  Perhaps something got confused in the reporting, and it was a brother to Ellen?  Or Alfred? On re-read, it seems it was a brother of one of the prisoners - where did I get Warren from then 

[toni*]

do you think these children could belong to George jnr & Jenny nee Onken?

Charles Arthur Culmer Baptism 8 May 1887 Saint Peter Hackney  
George Culmer, engineer
Jane Culmer
4 Tottenham Square
born April 22 1877


 Lillie Ada Culmer Baptism 8 May 1887 Saint Peter Hackney
George Culmer, engineer
Jane Culmer
4 Tottenham Square
born 27 Sept 1886
or maybe not ?

[jaywit]

I think we need to find out if there are any online newspapers for Melbourne, or criminal records or arrivals for anyone 1880's ( I think) with any of the relevant surnames.

[jaywit]

do you think these children could belong to George jnr & Jenny nee Onken?

Charles Arthur Culmer Baptism 8 May 1887 Saint Peter Hackney  
George Culmer, engineer
Jane Culmer
4 Tottenham Square
born April 22 1877


 Lillie Ada Culmer Baptism 8 May 1887 Saint Peter Hackney
George Culmer, engineer
Jane Culmer
4 Tottenham Square
born 27 Sept 1886
or maybe not ?

Toni Yes they have got to be.

[Spidermonkey]

Quote - In the early part of last year (so 1890), a brother of one of the prisoners left England for Australia, and when arrested Warren Ingram was found to be in possession of a letter addressed to Mrs Ingram.......

There were 6 prisoners:  George Cullmer, Trew, Capsey, Loveday, Ingram and Mrs Wheeler.

[toni*]

We never followed up that Melbourne link we knew about right from the beginning.


I notice in that NZ article AML wasn't mentioned at all.

The thought that pubs were involved, in the 1861 case wasn't there a pub mentioned? The King John if I remember correctly.


Check out the pub in 1861 and see who was running it.

We still have the query about what they did with the money, they don't ever appear to have flashed cash around.

we never follwed up the letter from Melbourne but would assuem it was Ellens relative rather than Warrens that wrote to her - checked out Warrens siblings they all stayed in UK

They (Alf Ellen Geo & Fred)  lived in an affulent area apparently

Alf senior (aka George) brought Ellen a diamond ring - thats not been handed down in my family  

The KIng John - i was tryignto think of that keopt coming up with Kings head

anyhow i have summarised up to last night and now have all this new info. to add!  

shall post the summary shortly

[Lesanne]

     Jamajo's PUB LINK

http://www.1881pubs.com/Search.asp

Trawled for a NZ link last night... nothing jumps so may be needs better searching.

[jaywit]

From the Aussie Resource board.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369963.0.html

I think we need to work through any relevant ones.

[toni*]

Mrs. E. Ingram, District Post Office, Essex Road, London, England posted from Melbourne – from letter found on Warren Ingram on his arrest on 21st November 1890