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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Just found a bio, birthdate, date & place of birth  AND  a photo of Albert  (Albert Joseph Stuart) ;D  ;D  ;D  , Richard's youngest brother

http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc06Cycl-t1-body1-d2-d28-d25.html#t1-body1-d2-d28-d25-d3
NEW ZEALAND ELECTRONIC TEXT CENTRE
The Cyclopedia of New Zealand [Taranaki, Hawke's Bay & Wellington Provincial Districts
Nash, Albert, Painter, Paper-hanger. Sign-writer, and House Decorator, High Street, Dannovirke. Mr. Nash's business is the oldest painting and signvriting biwinses in Danne-virke. His premises comprise a shop with a store-room and work-rooms at the rear, and a large and varied stock of wall papers, paints, oils, glass, and picture framings is carried. Mr. Nash gives constant employment to a large staff of workmen, and his work is well known for its style and finish. He was born at East London, South Africa, on the 29th of December, 1862, was educated partly at Southgate, Middlesex, England, and came to New Zealand in 1874. He completed his education at Auckland, subsequently learned his trade with his brothers in  Gisborne, and then started in business on his own account in Hawke's Bay. After remaining for a few months in Napier, he removed to Waipawa, where he followed his trade for about five years, and in December, 1891, settled in Dannevirke.......He takes a keen interest in cricket, and is an amateur photographer.

(Recalling Southgate, was where Rhoda WADKINS was from and where she married Albert's elder brother William James in 1870)

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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Great finds AMBLY and ED ;D

This all looks very promising.

GRO Army Chaplains Birth Indices

NASH Albert Joseph S "Cape" 1860-67 #103

There is in the GRO Regimental Births Indices

NASH Charles L 1859 "Queenstown" 85th Reg 832 17
NASH Charles L 1859 "Queenstown" 85th Reg 832 24

NASH Richard G 1855 "Westbury" 85th Reg 832 14

NASH William J 1848 "Dublin" 85th Reg 832 14

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Wooo! Kris!!! Absolutely Brilliant  ;D  ;D  ;D

There he is - Richard !

Rootschat is the best family tree to be under in the world !

Where's Westbury, do you know - is that Ireland? I know Queenstown is....

And that was a great find too Ed. You might be able to get his Military Record from that.
The 85th Reg KLI was a Shropshire Regiment I think - nickname the Young Bucks
http://www.marywardbooks.com/books/The-85th-Kings-Light-Infantry-by-C-R-B-Barrett-editor/MW004519111.htm


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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi AMBLY,

Yes RootsChat is certainly the best  ;D

Still trying to work it out - Dublin and Cape are obvious - Queenstown suspect that's the one in South Africa too, Westbury I don't know - certainly a few possibilities in the UK. Trying to work out where the 85th may have been but not a military researcher and I am getting very sleepy - If I am ready for my bed it must be very late there.

Would say the cert is a must.

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 12:46 GMT (UK) »
Amazing  ;D

Al I can say is WOW :)
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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 12:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
Just escaping the housework !!

There is a Westbury in Wiltshire, not all that far from Bristol area.  I should think that there would have been an Army base not far from that area.  I change trains there from the South West to go to the South coast.

This may not help, but is a possibility

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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Way late  8)  I just looked at the clock, gulp!  ;D - I'm starting to fade  but  It's been a hot humid day here (hence Ed sitting out under a tree earlier?) and it still is muggy up here (or down here if you're over there!) in Auckland, so I can't sleep anyway!

Genuki listings for Wiltshire, Glouc, and Shropshire  - I'm too tired to read  - is it the same place as Wilts, boundary changes, or partitioned between 2 counties etc?  -  so here's links!
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/Westbury/index.htm
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/WestburyonSevern/index.html
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Westbury/index.html

Shropshire is the home of the 85th....

Well Ed,  once you get over the developments and Kris' wonderful find - to answer your question earlier :

It does depend on other 'clues' and hunches but  Ireland is often  my first pick as a  culprit when I can't find a whole family in the the England/Scotland/Wales Census or BMD's  ;D Especially if they're missing from certain places in England, Bristol being one) and if there every reason to suspect they DIDN't go the US/Canada or the Antipodes in the time frame being searched.  Add in the names and Ireland always starts to look possible .  Though I really didn't think their NASH names were particulary Irish flavoured, once the SA connection came in via Charles Lionel , thoughts do turn to Army and Ireland.

So I'm  equally not surprised to see James snr was soldier  ;D     By the age/time  he came to NZ, he'd probably completed his 21 years of service.  I have a gf simlar time period, in the Army at 18, served 21 years, out and a Dock Labourer by the time he was 40.

BTW, Arthur 's burial is in the Tararua Cemeteries database:
http://www.tararuadc.govt.nz/asp/cemeteries_search.asp?menu=ce

And W J and Rhoda are in Te Henui Cemetery  in the New Plymouth Database:
http://www.newplymouthnz.com/AtoZOfCouncilServices/CemeteriesAndCrematorium/CemeterySearch.htm

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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Well, I'm off to bed - I'll leave you guys to fish them out of the 1871 Census in UK  ;D  ;D
My gut feeling is they should be there somewhere ???

RG10 /  Piece: 1318 /  Folio: 63 /  Page: 28
Lists two boys C NASH age 12 and F NASH age 10, pob Not Known - in what looks like a school in Middlesex?
I wonder - could this be Charles (age is spot on) and Albert (who really still be 9 in 1861 Census) - maybe the F was a misread of an A??


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Re: Help Please: Richard George NASH (born Bristol 1852) )
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 20:18 GMT (UK) »
BELLISSIMO!!
Wow! What a menu to wake up to!
I am absolutely in awe of you ladies. (I think it's all ladies..)
I just don't know how you distil these things out of the ether.
Initially, when posting the Death Notice, I felt a little hesitant - was I precocious in expecting more than I'd already been given? I didn't want to be the agent of your insomnia. But, what you have uncovered is amazingly impressive (to me, anyway).
I hope that other RootsChatters looking in on this string realise and appreciate, as I do myself, the wonderfully skilful thing that you do.
I'll just leave it at that for the moment - I need to gather my breath.

Again, on behalf of the 'peripatetic  Nash's', thanks to you all -

Ed Eyre
EYRE :        Sheffield - Yorkshire
COX:          City of Oxford
NASH:         Edmonton - Middlesex
CULL:          Canterbury - Kent
GILLIES:      Paisley - Renfrewshire
O'CONNOR: Limerick, Ireland  ~ 57th Regiment of Foot
                                     (Crimea,India,New Zealand)

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