Shaw/Byrne, Tullyorior, Co. Down

[AussieGaz]

I have been researching our direct family for 30+ years and found our roots to around 1858 when John SHAW married Ann BYRNE in Tullyorior.

Of the three children, I have done about as much as I think I can do on our direct relative Thomas SHAW born on 29th March 1862.

He had two brothers John Shaw baptised on 27th September 1858 (might have been 6th December 1858 as there were two entries) and also James SHAW baptised 21st July 1860. Both of these are linked to Tullyorior.

I have no idea who these two brothers married (if they did!!) , if they left Tullyorior or anything, and in a desperate bid to try and find information, thought I would try RootsChat.

Does anyone know anything at all about these two brothers?

[aghadowey]

Reply #8  on this thread has details on this family which you've previously posted-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,180915.msg2948467.html#msg2948467

1911 census is now online so you can check for the Shaw family there-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search

Another online resource is civil registration index-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347

[AussieGaz]

Thanks aghadowey for the tips and your help today.

Very much appreciated.

[sam cantley]

  Hi  AussieGaz,
  Have a look at http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/html/index2.htm
  You will find info on families from the Banbridge district.

[AussieGaz]

Hi Sam

Went on raymondscountydownwebsite and found our relatives mentioned in the Griffiths Valuation for Tullyorior. Its going to take ages to crawl through all of the valuable information in the site, which is exciting.

Thanks

[aghadowey]

Here's Griffith's Valuation site which has scans of original printed pages and maps-
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

[AussieGaz]

Hi aghadowey

Thanks for that bit of information. Its brilliant to actually see the original entry.

I paid a commercial company years ago to get this information for me, as, at that time, it was the days of telex, wet paper copiers etc. etc (in archives now!!!).

Now its readily available, when knowledgeable people like yourself are prepared to share what they know.

Thanks a stack for this.

Gaz

[mickwally]

Hey there AussieGaz. I was researching the Shaw family in my area and I found that the shaw family was well established in my area in years gone by. They lived down a long lane which had a number of houses belonging to the Shaw's on it and was in fact called "Shawstown" two of the houses still remain.
I spoke to a number of my older neighbours and they told me that their parents told them there was a James and Rose-Ann Shaw which lived there and they were brother and sister who never married.
I guess this must have been around the start of the 1900s and I take it they were probably a brother and sister of your relative Thomas. One neighbour did infact say there was a shaw that emigated to Australia but he wasn't exactly sure of his name. I hope this helps in some way.

[AussieGaz]

Hi mickwally

Thanks so much for your message and the insight. This information is s exciting. Our Thomas Shaw came out to Australia in 1886 and its his family that remained that I am trying to find out about.

James and Rosenana are mentioned in the 1911 Census as living in house 59 in Tullyorior. James was 52 and the Head of the Family. His brother Thomas was 49, sister Agnes 36 and another sister Roseanna was 33 all living.

I have obtained information from the Griffiths Valuations which give farm numbers etc - not knowing the area at all, how easy would it be to find these original farms - our John Shaw Jnr and Snr were in 13a and 13b.

If you know of anyone who has a digital camera, could they take any photos of the area for me?

How easy is it, do you know, to get copies of birth, marriage and death certificates of people who lived in the Tullyorior area? This must sound like a really simple question to be honest. Sorry!!

One thing that I have been trying to get clarification of for years is in which cemetery a relative was buried, I have written to the parish priest several teems, and no reply as of yet. I am told that the money and securities were in the hands of the Rev. John Mooney, the parish priest of Annaclone, however this does not mean he was buried there, I tend to believe now. His name was John Shaw and he died on 9th March 1866 and two headstones (no details) were to be placed in the family burying ground at Annaclone chapel yard.

Blank on this one so far!!

Anyway mickwally, I appreciate you getting back to me with that information.

Regards

Gaz.