Shaw/Byrne, Tullyorior, Co. Down

[AussieGaz]

Hi Sam

Thanks for that. I will have to get my 1905 Ordnance Survey Map out again and try and find the landmarks on Google Earth. The spot that I'm taken to by GE, seems to be little north of Tullyorior and to the east of Banbridge however I will only be able to confirm that once I have had time to have a good look.

much appreciated

Gaz.

[AussieGaz]

Hi again Laura2010

No idea what happened to my last reply to you!!

Your question got my interest going so I rumaged around when I got home from work this evening for the map.

It was printed in 1905 by the Director General of the Ordnance Survey Office, Phoenix Park, Dublin and shows Shawstown, Byrnestown, Kearneystown and Tullyorior School at the road junction. It was reprinted again in 1929.

So where do your roots stem from then Laura??

regards

Gary

[laura2010]

Hi Gary

My roots are from Tullyorior. Would be interested in getting a copy of the map you have if at all possible.

Thanks
Laura

[AussieGaz]

Hi Laura

The map is fairly large - an option could be is to try and contact the Ordnance Survey Office in Dublin or try http://www.phoenixpark.ie/ as they have great maps available.

Would be interested in hearing how you get along.

regards

Gary

[mickwally]

Hi Laura2010,
 
I know the lane that your talking about where mrs.campbell used to live it is now owned by the pyers family. Are you a relative of the campbells?Shaw's barn which was opposite the entrance to the lane and it is no longer there but it was a place where people used to go to dance. I have close up pics of both tullyorior schools and also the classes of pupils who went there. If you want to know any information i'm sure i could find out for you.
 
Mick

[AussieGaz]

Hi Mick

I am not sure about Laura, but it is so exciting having a person who has intimate knowledge about a location where our distant relatives used to walk and live in.

Are the photos of the school on your geograph site ta all?

I was not aware that there were two Tullyorior schools Mick. The only one that I was aware of is the one by the intersection. Now you have planted the seed as to which school our relatives might have gone to in times long gone.

Thanks for your information and updates. Not many people I am sure have the luxury of "an insider" to their past!!!

Gary

[mickwally]

Yeah well it is very interesting for me finding out information about my local area to and its strange to think that people lived and farmed the countryside long before we were around. Shaws barn that laura mentioned was the first thing came to mind when I heard about Shaw family I never knew Shawstown existed.
I would love to find out existly which Shaw owned the barn but it's located at the bottom of a field what was owned by Felix Burns so it was probably John Shaw Jnr's.

I'm still in the process of putting this article about Shawstown together for local history book that is being published next month its just hard to piece together the information about the family tree. I think it started with John Shaw and he three sons Michael, John, Edward and Anne but i can't work out if John Shaw Snr had anymore in the family. It doesn't have to be perfect but it would be good if I get it as close as I could. I also found out that Drumballyroney Church was Catholic at that time it is no longer Catholic which is interesting.

The book has some great history of the local area and includes some amazing stories about Tullyorior. That old map that you have would be brilliant for it but as you say it's quite big. It would really help people understand the area better. I hope maybe when it's completed that I could send you a copy of it.

[mickwally]

Getting back to what you said about the two Tullyorior Schools the one that's in photo is the one which was built in 1861 and i'm positive that's were your relatives would have went to. The other school wasn't built to 1966 and it closed in 1985 it is presently owned by my father. I actually took close-up photographs of both schools the other day because they are being included in the book also and I will put them up on that website over the weekend. I'm going down to Shawstown tomorrow to take photographs of the last remaining house.

Mick

[laura2010]

Hi Mick

Im trying to trace back as far as I can with my ancestors there is a connection with Campbells just not sure yet.  Any old photographs of the lane which I refer to as campbells and you say is owned by pyers family would be helpful.  Gaz tells me he has a map but I have tried the phoenixpark website but cant seem to get any were. Any info you have would be great.

Thanks
Laura