Orford, Suffolk: NEWSON birth c 1790

[Colin Y]

Hi

I am trying to resolve the origins and parentage of a man named Henry (aka Henery) Newson who I have been led to believe was born 20 July 1791.

As has been stated elsewhere on this site Henry was said on the 1861 Census to have been  'aged 72, Widower, former Mariner, born Orford, Sfk.' This matches in terms of dates/age because his birthday was in July and the census was taken on 7th April 1861 - 3 months before his 73rd birthday.

From there the data is confusing and there are several candidates for this Henry's father including yet another Henry or an Ezra.

Does any kind Rootschatter have access to Orford registers of about that time or of Woodbridge where he may be the Henry who was baptised there on 20 Sep 1794.

Its all very confusing but this family, as mentioned elsewhere are full of intrigue in later years too!

Any thoughts would be most welcome.

Thanks in anticipation... ;-)

Colin

[Annette7]

Hi Colin

There is a tree of ancestry which includes lots of dates and you appear to be 4 years out.   Henry Newson is shown as born 20/7/1787, bp.14/9/1787 Orford, bur.11/1/1873 St. Peter and St. Pauls, Felixstowe.

He married Jane Passiful 4/7/1810 Felixstowe and had 11 children at Felixstowe between 1810-1827 (baptism dates included).

He is shown as the son of Henry Newson bp.6/1/1761 Aldeburgh, Suffolk and Mary Robinson who married at Orford 11/7/1787.   His siblings were:

Elizabeth b.5/11/1788, bp. 17/1/1789 (d. 1789-1792)
Elizabeth bp.5/2/1792
Thomas b.15/3/1794, bp.22/7/1794
Sarah bp.25/6/1797
Robert b.15/7/1798, bp.11/11/1798
Mary b.11/11/1802    - baptised Orford

Annette

[Colin Y]

Annette,

Thanks. I am not an Ancestry subscriber these days and must admit to having had some incorrect data from that source in th past but Henry & Mary Robinson are and were my favourites.

I appreciate and thank you for the corrected dates - does the A tree cite the sources for these by any chance?

Interestingly that leads tis Newson family origins further up the coast and seems to connect this family with the Newsons of Leiston, associated with Elizabeth, named for her Newson grandmother, who was born to the Garretts and who subsequently married a Mr Anderson to become famous as the first lady Doctor!

Again thanks sincereley for your help.

Colin

[Annette7]

Colin

Henry bp.6/1/1761 Aldeburgh is shown as the son of William Newson and Sarah Bowter (of Huntingfield) married at Leiston in 1752.   Siblings were:

Sarah bp.12/4/1754 Huntingfield
Elizabeth bp.7/2/1756 Aldeburgh
Sarah bp.1/1/1758 Aldeburgh
Mary bp.28/9/1759 Aldeburgh, bur.Dec.1759

William Newson bp.7/4/1726 Leiston, son of Isaac Newton and Mary Butcher who married 18/7/1721 Denham - siblings being:

Isaac bp.11/3/1722 Denham, bur.1728 Leiston
Alice bp.7/4/1724 Leiston

There are no sources named - however, since most events are not on IGI, nor is there another such tree on A..y that they could have copied, it looks like the submitter has done some pretty good research as there are dates for everything which is pretty rare.

Annette

[Annette7]

Slip of the finger - Isaac Newton should of course be Isaac Newson!

[Colin Y]

Hi Annette,

Again thanks for all that.

I am chuffed to see that someone else has drawn the same conclusions from available sources as I did myself i.e. the origins of this family at or around Leiston.

I certainly hadnt found all the detail they had found that you so kindly passd on but my cousins in NZ will be delighted to get this confirmation that they appear to be related to that notable lady Dr Elizabeth Garrett Anderson, as well as an already established connection to a world famous comedian with a bowler hat and cane ;-)

I will today slot all this in with my skeletal data and that I am able to is down to your kind help and generous help, for which again, many thanks

Colin

[Colin Y]

Annette

May I seek your kindness, once more, please?

You told me that the other tree said "He married Jane Passiful 4/7/1810 Felixstowe and had 11 children at Felixstowe between 1810-1827 (baptism dates included)."

I have 8 children of his children only and wonder who I am missing!

Mine are:
        Henry NEWSON Jun
|     b. 10 Aug 1810, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|     d. Mar 1871
|   James NEWSON
|     b. 13 Sep 1811, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|   Jane NEWSON
|     b. 1813, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|   John NEWSON
|     b. 1818, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|     d. Dec 1891, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
|   Thomas NEWSON*
|     b. abt 1816, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|     d. 1895, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|   William NEWSON*
|     b. 1820, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|     d. 1898, Suffolk
|   Robert NEWSON
|     b. 1821, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|     d. 12 Jul 1821
|   Elizabeth NEWSON
|     b. abt 1827, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
|     d. 19 Jul 1827

I have a vaste database of newsons from all over Suffolk from my own trawling so I may have them but not have the link. I also have the above childrens marriages (3 for Thomas!) and many offspring of whom Henry Junior's are the most interesting for my cousins.

Can you tell me who the 3 are that I am missing of Henry Senior's 11 children, please?

Sorry! You may have seen elsewhere that we have started to conclude that we may need to resort to some DNA testing to be clear whether they are truly 'Newsons' or as seems increasingly possible, Watts! Thus the need to gather as many of the true links as possible to find true Newson Y DNA to compare with Watts Y DNA.

Your help is thus already invaluable and as  said very much appreciated.

Colin

[tunstallterry]

If you are collecting Newson names in Suffolk, you will find a few here and I guarantee you won't have these, or at least their birth dates? good luck.

http://sites.google.com/site/tunstallbaptistchurchrecords/home

[Suffolk Mawther]

If Elizabeth Garrett Anderson is in this family tree, then so are the Garrett's of Leiston engineering dynasty plus Elizabeth's amazing sister Millicent Fawcett (who had she cleverly kept her maiden name too might be more widely recognised).

A great read on the family to be found in 'The Pioneering Garretts - breaking the barriers for women' by Jenifer Glynn.

Pat ...