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Re: Captain Thomas Lake
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 03 February 10 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Try Rootsweb World Connect as well - may even give you some contacts.  ;D
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Re: Captain Thomas Lake
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 February 10 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dettori28,
                    Thank you very much for the information you so kindly research for me,it is very much appreciated.
                    Although Captain Thomas Lake is a distant ancestor, it is makes me very proud to know that our family were a part of the founding of the U.S.A.
                    Once again thank you very much for you help.
                                                               Kind Regards
                                                                                     Tomscot
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Re: Captain Thomas Lake
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 February 10 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peggy,
              Thanks fo the information.
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Re: Captain Thomas Lake
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 February 10 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tomscot.

Very pleased we could help.  Looks like you have loads to read, should keep you occupied for the rest of the winter.  ;D
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Re: Captain Thomas Lake
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 October 20 12:08 BST (UK) »
Hello There,

At what age would somebody be admitted to the Middle Temple please?

This is in relation to Thomas Lake (1656 - 1711), the son of Captain Thomas Lake (1615 - 1676), and his father being a half-brother of Sir Edward.

From "Masters Of The Bench" p.145:

It states that Thomas Lake, father of Sir "Biby" Lake was admitted to the Middle Temple, on the 31st of January 1664. He was called on the 10th of May 1678. -

http://archive.middletemple.org.uk/Shared%20Documents/Bench%20Book/The%20Middle%20Temple%20Bench%20Book.pdf

Thomas was born in Boston in 1656, so he would only have been nine years old when admitted.
Was this unusual for these times? Or was that more or less the average age that some people would have been admitted?

Also, in relation to Captain Thomas Lake (1615 - 1676), and his birth place:

I feel it to be more likely that he was born in Tetney, Lincolnshire, rather than Irby Upon Humber.
There was a Richard Lake(s), son of a Richard who was buried in 1613 at Tetney.
Thomas Lake was baptised on the 11th of August 1615 at Tetney (from "England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.")
He had full siblings Ambrose, John, Luke and Anne, who were all baptised at Tetney between 1617 - 1626.

The baptism of Thomas's brother Ambrose cannot be found.

But Ambrose was named in the Will of his father Richard Lake, a Tailor of Tetney, dated the 2nd of September 1626. There was also a Richard named in Richard's Will.
The children of Richard Lake of Tetney were named in age order in his Will.
I cannot find a baptism for his son Richard, but from the order written in his Will, he was probably baptised circa 1614.
Edward (1600 - 1674, later Sir Edward Lake), was named as Richard's oldest son in his Will, and was named separately from his half-siblings. He was a son of Richard's first wife Ann (nee Wardall).
In Richard's Will at Tetney in 1626, his children were named in this order:

Edward, named as his oldest son in Richard's Will.

Then altogether:
Richard, Thomas, Ambrose, John, Luke, Anne.

Richard's brother in-law John Morraley ( or Morriley) "of Claxbie (Claxby)" was made executor of his will. -

"Richard Lakes, Tailor, Tetney.": LCC WILLS: 1626, 572. Lincolnshire Archives.

Richard's widow Anne (nee Morriley, Richard's second wife), a widow of Tetney, made her Will there in 1627.

Edward (later Sir Edward) Lake, was not named in this Will. Also neither was the Richard Lake who had previously been named in the Will of Richard Lake in 1626.
But her children were named in the Will in this order, which was the same order they were named in Richard's Will:

Thomas, Ambrose, John, Luke, Anne:

"Anne Lakes, widow, Tetney.": LCC WILLS: 1627, 321. Lincolnshire Archives.

In relation to Sir Edward Lake, I also believe it likely that he was born in Tetney.
He was baptised there on the 22nd of February 1600. -

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3Q5-34W : 11 February 2018, Edward Laikes, 22 Feb 1600); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 505,760.

Now it is important to remember that this was the OLD STYLE DATE. This was nearly one month before the END of the year prior to 1752.

His parents were married on the 18th of May 1600 at Keelby, Lincolnshire. -

"England Marriages, 15381973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF3Y-6QL : 9 March 2018), Richard Laye and Ann Wardall, 18 May 1600; citing Keelby, Lincoln, England, reference M02948-3, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,541,933.

And so he was baptised at Tetney, nearly 9 months to the day from when his parents were married.

The Visitation of Lincolnshire also gives his age as 66 in 1666. It also names his mother as being Ann, the youngest daughter and co-heir of Edward Wardall of Keelby.-

"Lake of Irby & Lincoln."Visitation of Lincolnshire 1666, Lincoln Record Society vol.8, pub. 1917, p.35

https://archive.org/stream/publicationslinc08lincuoft#page/34/mode/2up

It is interesting to note that in the Will of Sir Edward Lake it may be likely that he makes reference to "Tetwey," (as transcribed), and this should probably read "Tetney," where he was baptized, and where his father died in 1626. There is no such place as "Tetwey." -

"Christopher Lake of Harpswell, and to such of my name and kindred as live at Tetwey."

And also in his Will he names his mother as being a daughter and co-heir of Edward Wardall. -

"INTRODUCTION." Sir Edward Lake's Account of His Interviews With Charles I. On Being Created A Baronet, And Recieving An Augmentation To His Arms, edited by T. P. Taswell-Langmead for Camden Society's Miscellany. vol. iv, 1858, pps.vi-viii - available online:

https://archive.org/details/siredwardlakesa00langoog/page/n142

I understand that Sir Edward's monument gives his age at death in 1674 as 77, and not 74. But it was not uncommon during this time for there to be mistakes relating to ages at death on monuments.







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