1861 Joseph McCulloch

[brimarge]

I am trying to trace Joseph McCullock born in Dumfries abt 1838, I noticed a marriage in Sep 1860 in Swansea, not sure who the bride is, could be Catherine or Eliza
I wonder if they appear on the 1861 census in the Swansea area
Brian

[heywood]

Hello Brian,

I can't see him in the Swansea area but there is this one - I know you have been searchihng in the Cumberland area so... 
I can't see though that this would be the marriage in Wales 

1861 RG9; Piece: 3900; Folio: 77; Page: 27
Townhead West Penrith

Joseph MacKolick lodger married 22 yrs Tramp b Dumfries
Margaret MacKolick lodger 18yrs Tramp's Wife b Driffield Yorks
John MacKolick lodger 6 months  Tramp's son b Cumberland Cockermouth

they are with lots of other 'tramps' including
James MacKolick 13yrs born Durham

Don't know if it is a possibility but sounds similar 

heywood

[brimarge]

Thanks Heywood

I never cease to be amazed by the skill of the work done on rootschat, how on earth did you come up with Mackolick instead of McCulloch and I think HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
This sounds very much like them, I went to Swansea simply because it was the only Joseph McCulloch to be found.
You will probably have seen that I'm also searching for Joseph's sister Elizabeth, there seems to be a commonality around Penrith/Cockermouth

James is a new name, need to do some more looking but they were in Durham
abt 1848

Brian

[heywood]

I can't really take any credit- I just searched for Joseph b 1838 Dumfries and that came up  and thought it sounds good!

It's lucky, if it is him, that he gives right birthplace and year.

I looked for Elizabeth in similar fashion but couldn't find her as McCulloch variation - that was just in England.

[brimarge]

Can you try the same thing for 1871?

Brian

[heywood]

This looks good- hope they are definitely yours 

Free BMD 1859 Cockermouth - possible spouses Margaret Cummings and Joseph McCullock

1871 RG10; Piece: 4930; Folio: 34; Page: 6

Horstons Quarry Coundon Durham

 Margaret Cumming head widow  53yrs licensed Hawker b Cumberland Haygate
Robert Cumming son 22 yrs Hawker's son b Heskith
Andrew Cumming son 20 yrs  -do-  b -do-
John Cumming son 16 yrs  -do- b -do-
Joseph McCully son in law 32yrs Licensed Hawker b Scotland Annan
Margaret McCully daur 31 yrs  -do-'s wife b Driffield
John McCully grandson  11yrs b Cockermouth
Andrew McCully son  8 yrs b Durham Barnard Castle
Thomas McCullyson  6yrs b -do-
Martha McCully daur 4 yrs  b -do-
Catherine McCully daur 1 yrs b -do-

obviously relationships to head went a bit awry after John 

looks good 


 

[brimarge]

Fantastic, I think this must be the 12th different spelling of the surname.

All the McCulloch children seem to have ended up as hawkers.

Have a found a James MacCullock b Dec 1847 in Durham but son't think it is mine as his sister Catherine born 10th Oct 1847.

What a chase this family has led us, which I will continue tomorrow

Very many thanks
Brian

[brimarge]

Chase continued today, Joseph lived until 1926 and had 13 children dieing in Penrith
Wife Margaret died also Penrith 1894

Found them on 1881/91/01 census, for some reason I could not find them on 1861/71 in Findmypast NOW GOT THESE AS WELL

Brian

[heywood]

That's great news