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(Robertson) Lost in the USA
« on: Friday 05 February 10 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello folks  :)

Can someone help trace a Robertson for me? Tall order, I know  ;D

Born:  Hugh William H. Robertson Jan 24th 1885 in Jarrow, South Shields, Durham, UK

Emigrated possibly 1904 (occupation: electrician), and stayed with relatives in Massachusetts a while.

WW1 Draft Registration card Sept 1918: living and working in NY, NY, NY age 33. [Working for a Motor Co. there but can't decipher details.]

Visited UK Jan 1923, returned to USA 7 Feb 1923.

Residence:  Oakland, USA [Alamedo, California?]
Arrival age: 38
Nationality: Gt Brit. -Scotch
Marital status:  M
Ship name:  Olympic
Incoming records give occupation as 'foreman'.

I can't find him on US Federal censuses, or any record of a marriage for him  ??? 

Can anybody please help trace his marriage and whereabouts after 1923, or suggest where I could look?

Thanks for your time  :)

finta

Caithness & New World: Robertson, McDonald
Durham: Robertson, Carroll
Ireland:  Carroll, Fanning
Yorkshire: Hall, West
Devon: Robertson

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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 February 10 15:04 GMT (UK) »
Ellis Island in 1923 also give the address of his wife as "Mrs Robertson, 1254 Commonwealth Ave, Boston, MA"; handwritten note says something like "???(intends to) join wife in Boston and leave for California"

So in 1918 he was in NY (and unmarried?), and in 1923 married (wife in Boston), and perhaps about to move to CA?

http://www.oaklandlibrary.org/RemoteRefFiles/form/familyhistory.html
 - you could try asking for a look-up in Oakland city directories.
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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 February 10 15:27 GMT (UK) »
I'm guessing the motor company may be Chevrolet?

On www.italiangen.org, there is an entry in the New York City groom's index for a Hugh Robertson who married a Marie Julia Gillard on 8 Aug. 1919 in Manhattan.  Perhaps that could be a "maybe"?

Have you found his relatives in Massachusetts in the 1920 Census?  On the off-chance there are any extra women hanging around there...


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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 February 10 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Ellis Island in 1923 also give the address of his wife as "Mrs Robertson, 1254 Commonwealth Ave, Boston, MA"; handwritten note says something like "???(intends to) join wife in Boston and leave for California"


Thanks so much for that jorose  :)

I'd love to know how you got the original manifest with the handwritten notes from Ellis Island...I can only get the transcript.  When I try to access the original I only get manifests for other vessels (e.g. Western World) and not the Olympic  >:( 

Shellyesq - Chevrolet it is!! :)  Thanks for that, and the other clues as to a possible wife.   :)  I have his rellies in Massachusetts till 1930 - could he legally have married a first cousin c 1920?

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Caithness & New World: Robertson, McDonald
Durham: Robertson, Carroll
Ireland:  Carroll, Fanning
Yorkshire: Hall, West
Devon: Robertson

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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 February 10 19:20 GMT (UK) »
I don't know - I just thought maybe if he went away for a while & was married, maybe his wife would stay with his relatives and it might be unclear how she was related.  Or there are always those stories about someone marrying a sister-in-law's sister or the family maid or something.  Just a long shot.   :)

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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 February 10 23:38 GMT (UK) »
www.stevemorse.org and the "missing manifests" or "search for a ship" options - this way you can go straight to the lists for a given ship when the images on Ellis Island have been not properly indexed. :)
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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 February 10 14:23 GMT (UK) »
jorose - what a great site!  However, after much faffing about ;D , I only found the same info as I'd got from Ancestry as below, no added info about wife etc.  Probably I was doing something stupid - its not unheard of   ;).

If you have time and patience, could you possibly find it for me again and post it somehow?  :-*  Email readily supplied if you can.

Shellyesq - You're right of course, his wife might be under my nose, so to speak  :D

finta
Caithness & New World: Robertson, McDonald
Durham: Robertson, Carroll
Ireland:  Carroll, Fanning
Yorkshire: Hall, West
Devon: Robertson

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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 February 10 16:38 GMT (UK) »
finta,  try looking at the manifest page after (or before) where you found the above entry.  Ellis Island records often are on  2 pages.   Look for the same line no. continuing on the 2nd page.

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Re: (Robertson) Lost in the USA
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 February 10 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks LissaM! I've got it now  :)   And thanks again jorose  :)

Could I be looking for them in any other censuses than the Fed ones generally available?

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Caithness & New World: Robertson, McDonald
Durham: Robertson, Carroll
Ireland:  Carroll, Fanning
Yorkshire: Hall, West
Devon: Robertson