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GGGrandfather - Barrister in England -Help
« on: Wednesday 12 May 04 16:46 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Just started and need help finding GGGrandfather in UK.  Please help me by:

1:  Pointing me in the right direction in regard to resources
2:  Sugestions on the next steps to dig deeper from the US

I have a records of my GGGrandfather that say:

1:
Perhaps another early immigrant at the time provides a clue to this mystery. Thomas A. Dwyer came to Nueces County in 1849. He was a barrister in Dublin, then London, but gave up the practice of law to raise horses and mules on the lower Nueces River.
  In a pamphlet published in 1872, Dwyer wrote about mustangers. "At that time,'' he wrote, "many Mexicans, whose families resided at Corpus Christi . . . supported themselves by 'running,' that is, catching wild cattle and by mustanging, or hunting wild horses.''

2:Another colorful chapter is the story of Thomas A. Dwyer, a barrister in London who gave up law to breed horses on a ranch near Corpus Christi.
  Dwyer came here in 1847 aboard the steamship "Fanny." He was one of the passengers who wrote a letter commending the captain for an easy voyage. Dwyer later gave the welcoming address when Henry L. Kinney returned to Corpus Christi in 1858 from his failed attempt to conquer Nicaragua.
  Dwyer sold his horses and ranch on the Nueces at the beginning of the Civil War. But he stayed in Texas, somewhere. He published a pamphlet in 1872 about taming mustangs. He explained in that article why he gave up the practice of law: "Eleven years at law in London and Dublin, with few briefs," he wrote, "and just forty guineas in fees (equal to $200 of our American money) in four years' practice at the Irish bar, had given me a big disgust, not only of law but of civilization at its crowded centers, fenced in by all kinds of restrictions, conventionalities, infinitesimal etiquette, artificiality and 'red tape.' "
  Here was a man who gave up his life's training to move to a strange new land. Here was a man of true grit. What happened to Dwyer - failed lawyer in London and successful mustanger in South Texas?

Both of these accounts are from newspapers in Texas.

Any help would be a great help.  Also, How would I find out what ship and what port did he use to depart the UK for the US.  I can find no record of him in on-line immergration lists and no record of a "Fanny" in ship registers.

Thanks,

Ken Dwyer

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Re:GGGrandfather - Barrister in England -Help
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 May 04 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hello Ken,

Have you a death Certificate for Thomas Dwyer. or a census return  ??? Anything which would give us an idea of age or date of birth. ??

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Re:GGGrandfather - Barrister in England -Help
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 June 04 21:57 BST (UK) »
The only thing I have is a 1860 Texas census that said that he was 41 years old in 1860.  That would place his birth about 1818.

The census also said he was born in Ireland.

Am I correct that my best hope would be to find a directory of lawyers in London and/or Ireland for the time period of 1835 to 1845?

Or is there another strategy I may be missing using birth certs in Ireland?  Dwyer was a common name and I do not know where he was born in Ireland.

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 June 04 21:49 BST (UK) »
Dear Ken,

As he was born in Ireland and the name is not so unusual I would try with your stongist line first.

As you suggest I would try to find out about his life a Lawyer in London first as there should be information about his address in the directories which will help you locate him in the 1841 census (fingers crossed)

Come back and let us know how you progress  :)

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 August 04 21:21 BST (UK) »
What about the Law Society?  I don't know off hand when it was founded but they say law is the second oldest profession . . . .

There is also a Law Society of Ireland.

As a barrister, his name should have been on a list or directory of the time.  There is also the Times, if any of his cases were reported in the Press.
Connell (Mayo & Lancs 19th/20th c) Culling (Norfolk & London 19th c) Diss (Essex) Giesen (UK only 19th/20th c) Hackney (London) Henbest (Kent & Sussex) Hughes (Mayo to Burnley, Lancs & Edward, Parachute Regiment 40s, 50s) Lister (London) Maltby (Marylebone) Mayo (Glos) Nials Noquet (Huguenot) Phillips (S London) Poulain (France & London) Rayner (Halstead, Essex) Pratt (Kent & Sussex) Redfearn (London) Silk Speller (Rodings, Essex) Thompson (S London) Thurley Trundle Wade Westley

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 August 04 15:06 BST (UK) »

There are quite a few links under beginners which may be usefull !

http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7869.0

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Re: GGGrandfather - Barrister in England -Help
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 September 04 09:55 BST (UK) »
I'd start by trying to find him in one of the London directories for somewhere between 1831 and 1850.  Some directories like Pigots are indexed quite well.