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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 February 10 20:36 GMT (UK) »
Two were legitimate and the other five were from that naughty rascal Henry I ( WIlliams son ).

I think there are quite a few that would have a link to Henry I as there is a lot of published information about him on the net and although it can't be proved (due to his many affairs) I to have a supposed link to him.

I was pretty lucky.   From the Bonville's I have over five direct links running at the same time. They split up between two of Henry's wifes ( Nest verch Rhys & Matilda of Scotland ) . The other three are from his recorded illegitimate kids ( Tracy , Fitz Henry & Fitz Roy ).  I have suspect links in through Adela, but I have yet to get those proved. The citations are a bit flakey for those.


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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 February 10 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Better dust off the tiara!!

Hi, we must be cousins of some sort. There must be thousands out there!

My ancestry goes back through the Bonythons in Cornwall UK one married Anne Trevanion a descendant of Ed1's daughter.  I didn't inherit the 'Longshanks' from Ed my husband calls me 'short arse'

It's something to tell the grandchildren though!!

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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 February 10 07:45 GMT (UK) »
Does this mean you are the rightful heir to the throne and not that chap in Australia  ;D


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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 February 10 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Isn't every English person of three generations standing descended from Edward I anyway?
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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 February 10 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Is that a fact Redroger, or one of those things that have developed over time till everyone believes it ? :-\


David

ps.   Congrats on your three grand!
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 February 10 13:28 GMT (UK) »
I'll practice my curtsey........

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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 14 February 10 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Can I have your autograph, DSR............................just in case  ;D

Hang on. Your autograph would just be a monogram!  >:(

Forget it, Sire.

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Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 14 February 10 15:01 GMT (UK) »
During my genealogical journey I've come across many statements regarding decent from the Kings of England, Normandy and Lambeth ( Pearly King decent ).

Here we go :

1 ) 90% of Europe descended from Charlemagne

2) 50% of British descended from William I

3) 99.999 % of the English descended from Edward I



There are currently 61 million people living in Britain today. Let us assume 50 Million are native British ( those with ancestry back to the 9th, 10th & even 11th century ).  At the time Charlemagne, William I and Edward I were taking part in that hobby 'procreation' , there were other people in the country involved in the same pastime.  The population of England at the time of Domesday has been tentatively estimated at between 1¼ and 2 million.

So if we take Charlemagne, William I and Edward I out of the equation, then those 1-2 million would have only spawned either 50% of today's British or .0009% of today's English - according to the above statements.

I don't think the Math adds up, .......however.......I would much prefer to have descended from some mad Romana-Brit and been part of the ' Unique' minority then a common herbert from William the Bastard .

Descending from 'insert fav Royal connection here ' is only of any value if it can stand up to scrutiny ( i.e proven and backed up by good genealogical evidence ).  Is it important ?  Not really, but it's a journey that has a conclusion and a solid foundation in which to build the tree even further.

Royalty has been documented throughout the planet for most of its history, so its easier to trace your ancestry back to Charlemagne, William I and Edward I then it is to make a connection with Gundrid the mad axe wielding nutcase from Wessex in the year 540.

If Gundrid and his off-spring had kept records, then that would also fit into the above three rules ?

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Re: I've hit royalty, now what ?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 14 February 10 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Whatever the perceived link is, descended or related, it's still taken a hefty amount of hard graft and perseverence to get to where you are DSR.

Well done. And back to your original question................now what?

David
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.