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Offline bel_jon68

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Re:Challenge to all you puzzle-solvers out there!
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 08 June 04 16:23 BST (UK) »
Pam – yes, it is a bit confusing when areas keep changing.  It certainly doesn’t help us in trying to track people down.

And to add to the confusion, I found the following:

“From Reports of Charity Commissioners Vol 32 c1840's Parish of Llangollen 160 This parish is divided into three traians or districts called Llangollen Traian, Trevor Traian, and Traian y Glyn. They have one church in common, with a churchwarden to each. The two former, lying contiguous, unite in raising rates and paying their poor; but the traian of Glyn, being separated by an intervening mountain, raises its rates separately, and pays its own poor; and removals take place from one portion of the parish to the other. The same rule of separation is generally observed in the application of the charities. Each traian contains several townships.”

So we have Traian y Glyn and Glyn Traian! 

Incidentally, I noticed in another post that it was suggested it could be spelt Glyn Traean – however, I would agree with the original spelling you had, as this is the exact spelling that appears on the Birth Certificate for the George Arthur that I hope is mine. 

I have also come across a Glyn Triain Community Council mentioned in minutes of a meeting of the North Wales Police Authority: Police and Community Consultative Group (Wrexham).  It might be that the person who typed this minutes up spelt Glyn Traian incorrectly as TRIAIN, it’s an easy mistake to make.

Maybe one day I’ll get the chance to go for a drive around Llangollen and find out if the villages I’m interested in still exist!  They don’t appear on today’s maps and I haven’t yet found them on Victorian maps.

If any RootsChatters know Llangollen and environs well, perhaps they could enlighten us please??

Bel
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ARTHUR, ROBERTS, LEWIS and WILLIAMS in Denbighshire/Merionethshire/Glamorgan
EVANS and JONES in Montgomeryshire
FALLOW(E)S, JONES, PREECE and GITTON in Shropshire
and the list keeps growing...
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Re:Challenge to all you puzzle-solvers out there!
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 09 June 04 12:37 BST (UK) »
Pam

I've done a bit more digging and found some stuff in The Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales 1872 regarding the places I'm interested in - Pontfadog is within Glyn Traian, so looks like our ancestors came from the same place!!  Which years are you looking at?

Bel

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Researching
ARTHUR, ROBERTS, LEWIS and WILLIAMS in Denbighshire/Merionethshire/Glamorgan
EVANS and JONES in Montgomeryshire
FALLOW(E)S, JONES, PREECE and GITTON in Shropshire
and the list keeps growing...
(March 2006) Now looking for HINKS, SPARKES, INGRAM from West Midlands area

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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 09 June 04 13:29 BST (UK) »
My lot are Hughes from Crogen Iddon which is about 1 mile west of Pontfadog.

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?X=325000&Y=337500&width=700&height=400&client=public&gride=323412.182360763&gridn=338352.788206864&srec=0&coordsys=gb&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&scale=50000&multimap.x=290&multimap.y=143

That may not work as a link, search multimap for Pontfadog and set it to 25,000 scale

The family are at Croggen Iddon in 1851 and 1841 but not 1861.  The family are Robert Hughes (shoemaker b: ~1796 Selattyn Salop) and Mary Parry (b: ~1806 Llangollen) they had 2 children in Salettyn and then 7 at Croggen Iddon.  Richard their 2nd youngest (b ~1837)was my great, great grandfather a builder who moved to Llandudno.

I've been trying to puzzle over where they might be buried.  I'm going to investigate Pontfadog church in the summer, just in case it was a death that meant they left the house rather than a pack up and go?

Cheers,
Pam

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