Walter Thomas Payne of Hockley, Warwick

[wozzle]

1871
RG10/3124/92/26
lavinia payne age 54. b. wolverley,worcs. head(wid)
james robert frederick payne age 19. b. kidderminster. occ. jeweller. son
laura marise payne age 19.. b. ditto. occ. press work(umbrellas). daughter
eli edward payne age 24. b. ditto. occ. collier. visitor(unm)
clara payne age 8. b. hartshill,staffs. grand daughter
living at st.stephen,st.george,birmingham

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1861
RG9/2157/61/37
lavinia payne age 44. b. wolverley. occ. seamstress. head(wid)
robert age 10. b. kidderminster(obviously this is james). occ. -----? piercer. son
laura age 9. b. ditto. occ. gold chain maker. daughter
living at;2,vampyn court,st.george,birmingham

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1851
HO107/2038/55/12
lavinia payne age 34. b. wolverley. occ. seamstress. head(wid)
william payne age 13. b. kidderminster. occ. carpet weavers assistant. son
richard payne age 11. b. ditto. occ. carpet weavers assistant. son
eli edward payne age 5. b. ditto. son
henry payne age 4. b. ditto. son
james robert perl? payne age 6mnths. son
sophia jacobs age 21. b. wilton,wiltshire. occ. house servant. lodger
eli hill age 31. b. wolverley. occ. coalminer. lodger(unm)
living at;horns buildings,kidderminster,worcs

[wozzle]

although at this moment i cannot find the family in 1841 i think this might be the marriage
ribbesford is within the kidderminster area
and with the eldest child called william this is a possibility
also on the 1861 census posted there is an eli hill living with them also born in wolverley think this could possibly be lavinias brother
william payne/lavinia hill
married on the 11th october 1836 at ribbesford,worcs
ext rec I.G.I.

[wozzle]

here is lavinias christening
lavinia hill baptised on the 14th april 1816 at wolverley,worcs
parents william/sarah hill
other children of william and sarah
elias hill christened 29/12/1818(this is probably the eli on the 1861 census)
clarinda hill christened on the 26/8/1821(james payne and his first wife margaret also had a child named clarinda naming pattern here)
i am almost certain now this is the right marriage for lavinia

p.s. just hope this is the right line for walter thomas payne(fingers crossed)

[Brummy Bob]

Did you every find out if this was the Walter Thomas Payne you were seeking? The names of the family you quote are confusing. James Robert Perl Payne was actually Robert Peel Payne but he added James and dropped Peel from time to time.

In 1919 Annie Payne was corresponding with the Military for the early discharge of his brother quoting the death in service (WW1) of Walter Thomas Payne and the death of his brother in the Boer war saying she had given two sons to the Country and she needed the other back as Robert (her husband) was not well.

[Bojalu]

Your Thomas Walter PAYNE
is on the 1918 Absent Voters Electoral Register.
Reg Details- 810748 , Bdr, 36 D RFA

Year 1918
 Address- 146 Church Street, Aston , Lozells ward. Warwickshire

Also on Absent voters list at same address, same year-

Richard PAYNE-
 Reg - T4244684, Pte, 31 Lco Asc

I hope this helps.

There are a number of PAYNE's buried at KEY  HILL Cemetery,  HOCKELY , in Birmingham's Jewellery Quarter.

Bo

[Aks]

I just wanted to apologize to all of the contributors to this thread, as I have been occupied elsewhere and haven't been able to follow this up. Thank you very much for all of this information.

In answer to Brummy Bob's question, I am not sure, however this Walter Payne seems to be a little too young to correspond to my search. I am curious to know how you know that Annie Payne was so corresponding with the military in 1919.

[BushInn1746]

If your enquiry is Hockley, Warwickshire, then there is also a place called Hockley at Galley Common, Nuneaton, which was once Hockley Stockingford, Nuneaton.

In 1889 a Walter Thomas Payne birth was registered in the Nuneaton District.

Regards Mark