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Re: Chesshyre family
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 21 February 10 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jean
Many thanks for all today's help  :) We have got a lot further!!
As I live in Norway the time is an hour ahead of Greenwich meantime, so I must tear myself away and go to bed.

I suspect it is harder to find out about the mother's family : Charlotte Frances Commeline...well that's the next approach and

Where is C.H. to which he was returning in 1872...? The mystery continues!

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Re: Chesshyre family
« Reply #28 on: Monday 22 February 10 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Searching for birth & parentage of Henry Thomas Newton Chesshyre, b.c.1818 -where? (Bath?,Cheshire,Lancs.?)
Also death - he died after 1872 (last found evidence)- somewhere he called 'C.H.'

Look up request: 1841 Census: Essex: John Peter Henry Chesshyre, vicar of Little Eastern

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Re: Chesshyre family
« Reply #29 on: Monday 22 February 10 18:26 GMT (UK) »
1841 Census: HO107 328/12/3  Page 1, Little Easton, Essex:

John Peter Henry Cheshyre, 50, Clergyman, No
Charlotte Frances Cheshyre, 45, No
Juliana Frances Cheshyre, 18, Yes
Charlotte Maria Cheshyre, 16, Yes
Augustus Phillips Cheshyre, 15, Yes
Matilda Rachel Cheshyre, 13, Yes
Louisa Caroline Cheshyre, 11, Yes
Catherine Isabella Cheshyre, 7, Yes
Jack Montgomery Cheshyre, 5, Yes
Mary Susan Gace, 23, Governess, No [goes on to marry Charles John Chesshyre!]
+ 4 servants

Note that ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years in the 1841 census and no relationships were given - the yes / no in the last column shows if they were born in the county or not.

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Chesshyre family
« Reply #30 on: Monday 22 February 10 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Gloucester Records Office have some records for the Commeline family:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/083f/

It might be worth a separate post on the Gloucestershire board to see what can be found - if you do post, include a link to this thread so that people can see the background.

Jean

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Chesshyre family
« Reply #31 on: Monday 22 February 10 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jean- I tried to be clever today and sent out (somehow - not sure what I did)a request for a look up on J.P.H.C's family - got some answers, but I can see its wise to stick to someone who has the thread of enquiry....
Can you discover more about the rest of the family?
Reason is that in 1871 Census Henry Thomas N.C. is a lodger at a 'Master Mariner'-John Finey-at Emsworth in Hampshire - much below Henry's family's station.
I am wondering whether Henry's father gave H. his inheritance out of Harriet's bequest, enabling Henry to escape the war. Maybe that's what prompted John Peter to get on with making his will and it would account for Henry getting so little(just a pair of silver candlesticks) from his father. Then Henry had used up all his money - in disgrace?
Is it possible to find out what the appointment of attorney for Henry was about?

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Re: Chesshyre family
« Reply #32 on: Monday 22 February 10 19:19 GMT (UK) »
The Commeline family didn't have anything I could see to be at all relevant, so I think we found the right things in relation to Henry thomas with Harriet's will.

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Re: Chesshyre family
« Reply #33 on: Monday 22 February 10 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Dear Jean,
Could we find out what happens to this family by looking at the Census of 1861, 71 & 81?
As John Peter Henry died in 1855, I imagine that Charlotte Frances may have carried on as head of house for some years....and after that maybe the eldest unmarried daughter - Juliana Frances?
I have a 'romantic'? idea that he might have gone to live with a sister when he got too old to cope alone. But he would hardly have known any of them.

2 years ago I searched masses of Deaths lists that I found on the net but didn't find him Didn't search in Essex or Somerset...will try again. Don't remember now how I did it! I've written to buy a copy of the conveyance doc.

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Re: Chesshyre family
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