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Lost Marriage - help please
« on: Saturday 20 February 10 20:13 GMT (UK) »
In the 1841 Census and the 1851 Census for Mobberley,Cheshire  the elder Blackshaw family are living in Moss Lane.  With them are the Grandchildren with a family name of Pimlott.  In 1841 the daughter , Mary is also there.   According to a later  marriage certificate for the Grand daughter Elizabeth(Betty) father Samuel Pimlott was a Wood turner.  I believe he came from the Prestbury/Birtles/Pott Shrigley area.

My problem is I can not find any references for a marriage between Samuel Pimlott  and Mary Blackshaw.   The first child was born in 1834, and I have looked before and after that date.

Ideas or help please.
Baskerville,Blackshaw,Perrin,Pimlott  -  Alderley & Mobberley  Chesh
Haynes,Canadine,Yates,Wycherley,Owen -Broseley Salop
Clarke, Tillett,Tidman,Beldon -  Norfolk

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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 February 10 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi usacheshire

How about this:

Mary BLACKSHAW m Sam. PIMBLOT 23 Jun 1834 Cheadle

You will need to check the parish register entry to confirm.

Jean
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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 February 10 21:13 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 February 10 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for trying.  Yes I had found the Cheadle entries and discounted them.  I have had Pimblott, Pimlett and all variations.

My own guess- without any facts is that Samuel had already deserted or died after the last child was born, because I have never found any records for him.

I guess we keep looking .   
Baskerville,Blackshaw,Perrin,Pimlott  -  Alderley & Mobberley  Chesh
Haynes,Canadine,Yates,Wycherley,Owen -Broseley Salop
Clarke, Tillett,Tidman,Beldon -  Norfolk


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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 February 10 22:33 GMT (UK) »
I'm really not sure why you would discount the Cheadle entries - the places are very close to each other so I would take it as a good match.

I think you would need to find burial records to confirm your thoughts - but the marriage would seem fairly certain.

Jean
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 14:25 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Jean.
My 3x grt grandmother was Elizabeth Blackshaw of Mobberley and she married Thomas Warburton in Manchester Cathedral in 1833.
Mary might have been living and working in Cheadle at the time of her marriage, or been pregnant and got married in Cheadle rather than Mobberley or Knutsford, so I wouldn't discount the marriage at all.

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Su
Barnett Altrincham/Manchester
Bates Hindley Lancs
Bowyer Altrincham Cheshire
Cunliffe Hindley
Hollingworth Hale Barnes/Mobberley Ches
Jones Salford/Altrincham
Ramsdale Hindley Lancs
Timperley Warburton/Dunham Massey
Yarwood Great Budworth,Lymm,Dumham Massey

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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 14:56 GMT (UK) »
OK Thanks everyone, I guess I know when I'm beaten, I'll send for a copy on my next batch. :)
Baskerville,Blackshaw,Perrin,Pimlott  -  Alderley & Mobberley  Chesh
Haynes,Canadine,Yates,Wycherley,Owen -Broseley Salop
Clarke, Tillett,Tidman,Beldon -  Norfolk

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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 15:07 GMT (UK) »
OK Thanks everyone, I guess I know when I'm beaten, I'll send for a copy on my next batch. :)
be careful though
on the 1841 census there is a samuel/mary pimlot/pimlet living in cheadle with eldest child peter aged 4
although i to think the marriage found is probably yours
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Re: Lost Marriage - help please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 February 10 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi wozzle,

Please could you post the reference for the 1841 census?

Maybe we can establish if they are the same couple or not....

Thanks,

Jean
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)