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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 March 10 06:52 GMT (UK) »
Possible ...
CHRISTIAN STEPHEN
christened  31 AUG 1791   Old Deer, Aberdeen, Scotland
to GEORGE STEPHEN  and  MARGARET WILSON     
OPR 

There are a few births for Andrew c. 1787 without a clear Parental match-up

Christian still alive in 1841 ...

1841 Scotland Census
Andrew Reid
Age: 50 to nearest 0 or 5
Born: Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Parish lived in .... Old Deer
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Slampton Hill
Occupation: Crofter
Andrew Reid 50
Christian Reid 45 born Aberdeenshire
Christian Reid 8
Isabel Reid 5
 
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 March 10 07:02 GMT (UK) »
possible .... someone else has clearly been researching this line
and submitting info to LDS from perhaps family bible sources etc.

ANDREW REID ....... LDS submitted entry
christened on 10 FEB 1788   Old Deer, Aberdeen, Scotland
to ALEXANDER REID  and  ANNE HENRY   

DDJJAKE
Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 March 10 07:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi DDJ,

You are being so helpful!   We really appreciate all your work on our behalf.

Once we gather all the "possibles" together, any suggestions on the best way to confirm the information?

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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 13 March 10 07:41 GMT (UK) »
These are only the free Mormon transcriptions of most/but not all, of the official Old Parish Records that they bought rights to copy from GRO Edinburgh around 1991. But they contain LDS submissions from other folks with/without exact data related to some of the incomplete records. I may look at GRO OPRs to see if there is anything related to c. 1790s Reid/Stephen data there.
The census information I search out is courtesy of my worldwide membership of Ancestry.com.
The two images of 1865 and 1868 cost me a couple of pounds or so, but as helping is one of my hobbies, I don't mind doing that :-)

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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll


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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 13 March 10 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kim ...
Great progress
1861 Scotland Census
Name: Andrew Reid
Age: 74
Head
Spouse's name : Christian
Gender: Male
Born New Deer, Aberdeenshire
Parish Savoch
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Slampton
Occupation: Crofter Of 5 Acres
Andrew Reid 74
Christain Reid 70 wife born Old Deer
Christian Reid 27 daughter born Old Deer
Peter Beekie 4 grandson born Old Deer
William Reid 2 grandson born Old Deer
Margaret [Reid] Milne 47 daughter born Old Deer Stocking Knitter
 
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1871 Scotland Census
 Christina Reid
 79
 Head
Born: Old Deer, Aberdeenshire
Civil parish: Old Deer
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Slampton Hill
Occupation: Farmer (of 15 Acres)
Household Members: Name Age
Christina Reid 79
John Reid 20 Grandson born Fyvie, Aberdeenshire

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Father of Andrew (below) confirmed in Death Cert in June 5th 1866 --- No mother known by daughter Christian as informant [Image available]
ANDREW REID born  23 APR 1786   New Deer, Aberdeen, Scotland
to ROBT. REID  and ISOBEL LAMB     
OPR 
 
Parents of Christian confirmed by her death in Fyvie 20th January 1878 [Image available] informant son John Reid
CHRISTIAN STEPHEN
christened  31 AUG 1791   Old Deer, Aberdeen, Scotland
to GEORGE STEPHEN  and  MARGARET WILSON     
OPR 

Personal Message me with e-mail address and I will send you FOUR GRO IMAGES

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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 25 May 11 23:49 BST (UK) »
I am hoping someone can help me with a couple more mysteries regarding this same "George Reid".

- George was not given a middle name when he was baptised but at some point in his later life, he took the name "Kennedy" as a middle name.  Where could I find if this was a legal name change?

- on some censuses George was indicated, I believe, as a gardener.  Later records, show him as a master chemist.  Any ideas where I could find information on his education?

- I just heard a family rumour that George senior may have served time in prison.  Where could I find out if this is true or not?

I apologize for so many questions.

Kim

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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 May 11 10:04 BST (UK) »
- George was not given a middle name when he was baptised but at some point in his later life, he took the name "Kennedy" as a middle name.  Where could I find if this was a legal name change?

It probably wasn't recorded formally. You can use any name you like provided you don't do so with intent to defraud. It's quite common for people to acquire a middle name in later life.

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- on some censuses George was indicated, I believe, as a gardener.  Later records, show him as a master chemist.  Any ideas where I could find information on his education?

This is George b 1868? Schooling was made compulsory in 1872, and there would have been records of his admission and progress. The question is whether these records have survived and if so where they are. I'd start by asking Dundee Public Library - see http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/library/localhistory

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- I just heard a family rumour that George senior may have served time in prison.  Where could I find out if this is true or not?

That's more tricky because it would depend on which court sentenced him and that would depend on how heinous his crime was. Records of many court cases are in the National Archives of Scotland www.nas.gov.uk but I think I'd ask Dundee Public Library if they know where the local court or prison records are. You could be in for a long search if they're not indexed and you don't know when he was in prison.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 May 11 10:08 BST (UK) »
Andrew Reid 63
Elizabeth Reid 13 Daughter born Old Deer
Christian Milne 12 Visitor

Speculation: could Christian Milne be the daughter of William Milne and Margaret Reid, born 26 February 1839 in Old Deer?
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Re: REID - Broughty Ferry
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 28 May 11 02:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you Forfarian.  I do believe that these are Christian's parents.  Thanks for finding them!