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* COMPLETED *1841 Census - Simmons
« on: Monday 15 March 10 17:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for George Simmons (sometimes spelled Simmonds), born approximately 1818-1820 in Edgmond.  Also his parents - his father is also named George Simmons or Simmonds (as per the son George's marriage certificate dated Feb 7, 1853).  Not sure if the son George would be living with his parents (age 21 or so).

George (Jr) is listed as a widower on the 1853 marriage certificate, and I believe his first marriage was in 1844 to Sarah Treavor.  If there is a listing for Treavor in the 1841 census showing a daughter Sarah born approximately 1821 in Stoke, I would appreciate that too.

Thank you very much.

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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 April 10 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
There is only one Sarah Treavor on 1841 census
H0107 899 7/11 15
Hinstock villa farm Hinstock Shropshire
Sarah Treavor aged 20 b 1821  farm servant born county.
 This matches with your marraige info
Sarah Treavor=m= George Simmonds 2nd qtr 1844 vol 18 page 209 Market Drayton
1851 census
H0107 1998 150/23
Edgmond marsh edgmond shropshire
George Simmonds b 1820 Edgmond ag lab
Sarah Simmonds ag lab b stoke
Elizabeth 6yrs
Jane 1yr
Death
2 found Sarah Simmonds
2nd Qtr 1852 vol 6a page 538 Newport S
4th qtr  vol 6a page  * Newport S
 Hope this is of some help
cheers cardiff
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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 April 10 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Cardiff,
Thank you very much for that info.  When you get a chance, would you mind checking for any George Simmonds in the 1841 census, approx. 21 yrs. old and likely living around Edgmond.  His father was also George Simmonds or Simmons and I don't know the mother's name, but would love to locate them.  I certainly would appreciate your help.  I seem to be stuck on that spot.
Thanks again.
Kind regards - cassiar

Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 April 10 16:46 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to follow another lead on the other side of the family....In the 1841 and 1851 census reports for Thomas and Elizabeth Bowen, is there a widow Jane living with them?  (approx. 70 yrs old in 1851 and 60 yrs old in 1841).  She was born in Kerry Montgomeryshire according to the 1861 census. 

Thanks for any help you can give me on this...
cassiar
Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae


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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 April 10 16:49 BST (UK) »
Hi
wil have a look now
cheers cardiff ;)
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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 April 10 17:03 BST (UK) »
Hi to save time can you give me your Bowen census ref so I can see them on 1861 census.
Not having a luck with Gerorge in 1841 census.
cheers cardiff
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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 April 10 00:29 BST (UK) »
RG9; Piece: 1842; Folio: 15; Page: 5 - Thomas and Elizabeth Bowen

I wonder where the Simmons family was in 1841?  My father-in-law said his family originally came from Ireland to Lancashire and then Shropshire, so maybe it was during that generation....hmmm....

Thanks cardiff,

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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 April 10 19:52 BST (UK) »
Hi
BOWEN FAMILY
1851 H0107 1983/296/8
Asterton Asterton Clun Shropshire
Thomas b 1811 Badger Shrop
Farmer 160 acres
Elizabeth b 1816 Berriew Montgom
Benjamin b 1851 (1month old) Norbury shrop
Jane Bowen Mother b 1781 N K Montgom  Annuitant
Robert Bowen Brother b 1823 Church Stretton servant

1841 census
H0107 920/17/4/4
Asterton Norbury
Benjamin Bowen  60yrs old not born county Farmer
Jane  60yrs nbc
Thomas 30yrs yes born county
Sarah 25yrs old ybc
Ellen 20yrs ybc
Elizabeth 18 ybc
Robert 15yrs ybc

 Poss Deaths
Benjamin Bowen 4th Qtr 1844 vol 18  p 47 district Clun
Benjamin Bowen2nd Qtr 1850 vol18 p 49 district Clun
Poss marriage
Thomas Bowen =m= Elizabeth Rees
4th Qtr 1849 vol 27 page 206
District Montgomery
Good match has baby benjamin born 1851
Interesting he married  a girl where his mother was from could they have been related?

Hope this is of some help
cheers cardiff ;)
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Re: 1841 Census - Simmons
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 April 10 20:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
Regarding Simmonds family finding it difficult to find them .There are  few George Simmonds, what was the occpation of the  2 george's on the marriage certificate that might help.
cheers cardiff ???
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Read Wiltshire /Pontypridd
Dove Lincolnshire/Pontypridd/Cardiff
Barnhouse Cardiff/Pontypridd
Wilkes Shropshire/ Staffordshire/ Rhondda
Fletchers Staffordshire/ Glamorgan
Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
Probert Cardigan/Rhondda/Shropshire
Jenkins Cardigan
Lewis Cardigan
Morgan Penderyn/Pontypridd
Stephens Penderyn
David Glamorgan
Whitby Forest Dean
Hughes Goodrich/Pontypridd
Jackson/Smith London /Kent/Glamorgan
Hughes Maesteg/Ynyshire