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Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« on: Monday 21 March 05 20:35 GMT (UK) »
John Saunter born 1798 in Sussex, Beckley in 1871 census living with wife Sarah born 1801 in Maidstone, Kent.

Have them living in Rye at 11 Mermaid Passage on 1871 census.


Thanks         Linda

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Re: Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 March 05 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Linda

I searched Mermaid St and vicinity in the 1841 Census, but can't find any Saunters.  Would you like me to look in Beckley?

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Re: Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 March 05 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Yes please Deborah


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Re: Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 March 05 23:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Linda

Unfortunately, much of the Beckley Census is so faint as to be unreadable.  I've had a stab, though.

In what looks like it might be King's Bank (having referred to a map):

Henry Sauter (without the 'n'), 45, Ag. Lab.
Undeciperable female, 50(?)
Mary, 20
Undecipherable male, 15
Jane, 12

In the next household, Old Oak, there is a family with what appears to be the same surname:

Possibly William, 35, Ag. Lab.
Jane, 35
Illegible male, 13
Frances(?), 5
Fred, 4

If you want to follow the above on a map, the enumerator was following the turnpike road (I assume the present A268) leading from Rye towards London.  The next household along  from the last lot of possible Saunters was G. Knell cottage and then a number of households identified as Great Knell.

The next enumerator moved from Four Oaks into the village.

In the village there is a family whose surname appears to be Santer:

James, 35, Ag. Lab.
Hannah, 25
Charlotte, 6
Thomas, 2
Herbert, 9 months

All the above appeared in the first two sections of the Census for Beckley which was very faint, and so I cannot swear to the above being accurate.  Some parts were so faint as to appear blank - and so I may have missed Saunters.  The remaining sections were readable, on the whole (some pages were very faint at the bottom), but I didn't spot any Saunters or similar names.

There should be more, judging by the 1881 Census (ie. John and Serena Saunter who were born in Beckley in 1805 and 1807, respectively, and were still there in 1881).  As some Saunters were, in 1881, in Sowdens cottage, I looked at Brede/Broad Oak/Udimore where Sowdens Farm was located because Sowden's Bridge was one of the borders of Beckley recorded in the Census.  I could only find the inhabitants of Sowden's Farm and they were Larkins.

I've looked at much of Rye, to no avail.  I haven't searched outside the "town walls" or the Rye Harbour area, though.

Deborah






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Re: Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 March 05 10:14 GMT (UK) »
Some more Saunters:

In Peasmarsh:

Mary (22) and Eliza (20) - they both appear to be milliners.

In Northiam:

Beales Lane - Robert Sauter (80), Parish Beadle (I wonder if he had a big hat)

Stream House -

John Santer (34) Ag. Lab.
Henry (13)
Martha (12)
Mary (10)
Thomas (8)
Harriet (7)
John (5)
Elizabeth (2)
Margret Roggers (4) F.S.

Next door -

Thomas Santer (65) Ag. Lab.
Henrietta (35)

Farm (smudge over name) -

William Santer (60) Ag. Lab.
Harriet (35)

Horn's Cross (?) -

George Santer (30) Ag. Lab.
Harriet (25)
George (8)
Spencer (6)
Sarah Ann (4)
Amos (2)
Edgar (5m)

I looked at Peasmarsh and Northiam as there were Saunters in these places in 1881 and they border Beckley.

I don't know if you can tie any of these in with your Saunters.  I can't find John and Sarah.  Does John's occupation provide a clue as to the sort of place he might live in?  Could they be in Maidstone?

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Re: Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 March 05 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Deborah,


Thanks so much for taking the trouble to find out so much info. for me.  I am sure  can 'do' something with that lot.


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Re: Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 May 05 18:47 BST (UK) »
hi Lindap

Found the following Saunter surnames on the 1841 census for Rye which you may find interesting

HO107/ 1109/ 4 - Middle Street, Rye

SAUNTER John, 49, Bargman
..............  Sarah, 40
..............  Sarah, 15

HO107/ 1109/ 4 - Watchbell Street, Rye

SAUNTER Henry, 23, Carpenter
..............  Jane, 22
..............  George, 1

HO107/ 1109/ 5 - Wishward, Rye

SAUNTER Stephen, 30, Cordwainer
..............  Susanna, 30
..............  Caroline, 11
..............  Ann, 9
..............  Susanna, 5
..............  Eliza, 2

Everyone above born in Sussex

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Re: Rye, Sussex look-up before 1871 please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 May 05 21:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris,

Thanks a lot for the Saunter names, some of them must be mine,


Linda