william lemon

[John Gratton Lyons]

I am John Gratton (an) Lyons canada 
My father was Gratton Lemon Lyons
his father Rev James Lyons married Mary E Lemon daughter of Graham Lemon
I have the mother of Mary to be Isabel

My mother was a cousin o fmy father
Her mothers name was Annie Graham Lemon who was the daughter of John Brady Lemon who was the son of Graham Lemon founder of Lemons

[Reamon]

Greetings, HMStew,
My great grandmother was Sarah Lemon who gave birth to my grandfather, William Redmond, in 1850 who hailed from Market Hill. As you say, she was married to my great grandfather, John Redmond, born 1780. I am wondering if you have any records that throw light on John Redmond's ancestors. It so happens my grandfather moved to Cork City around 1900 and started an agency for weighing machine specialist, Pooley, subsequently absorbed by W& T Avery.

[hmstew]

Hello Reamon.
Your Great grandmother Sarah Lemon, born 22/07/1833 was the youngest of 7 children of Thomas Lemon and Annie Barklie of Markethill, Armagh. My great great great grandfather, Wm Redmond Lemon was the second son and Sarah's older brother. I spent a number of years trying to work out the relationship with the Redmonds, being put on the wrong track by the fact that William's second name was Redmond - still not sure where this name came from, as he was born 10 years before John Redmond. Perhaps the Lemons and Redmonds were connected further back? The only information I have on John Redmond is that he was a weaver and he married Sarah Lemon on 14.03.1850 in Clare Presbyterian Church, Newry. I have a note that his father was George Redmond of Armagh, possibly an actor? Sarah died on 29.09.1888.
I'm not sure which of William and Frances's children was your father/mother, but I do know that Sally Redmond (Sarah Jane Dishon Redmond) did not marry and was a great help to my branch of the Lemons - she lived with them in Dublin for some years. I have some other information, but am very busy with full-time work and don't have as much time as I would like 

[Reamon]

Hello HMStew,
Thanks for your help. Sally Redmond was my aunt, who passed away nearly 60 years ago. She did go up to Dublin for long visits to the Lemon family. If you ever get the time to let me have further information that you have on my great grandfather's antecedents I should be grateful to have it. I suppose it must be quite rare for me to go back only four generations and find I am back over 230 years.
                                   Best regards,

[lemon12]

I was really interested to read about the family of William Redmond Lemon, as I have been looking for my maternal tree for ages. My great-great grandmother was Jane Lemon born around 1837-39. She gave her parents names as Thomas Lemon and Sarah Redmond on her marriage certificate (she married twice, second time in Scotland to the same man) I have never found her parents marriage. Jane married an English man in 1861 in Dublin. I am sure she is related to William Redmond Lemon because of the links in my tree. Her eldest daughter Frances Elizabeth Knatchbull never showed up on the English census. But suddenly I came across her married to a William Redmond in Cork at the end of the 1800s. One of their children had the middle name of Dishon, and this child stayed with a Lemon family (I think Wm Redmond's children) in the 1900s. There is a link. I just cant find it. Does anyone know about Jane's parents - did Thomas marry again after Sarah Redmond? They all seem to be interlinked. William Redmond by the way was a son of John Redmond and came from Armagh!

[Reamon]

Dear Lemon 12,
I may be able to throw some light on your maternal family tree. Frances, Elizabeth Knatchbull was my grandmother and the reason she may never have shown up on the English census is that her father's first name was Tomblyn, who was in an infantry regiment but hated it so he deserted but because he loved horses he joined the Scots Greys and to improve his chances of being accepted he changed his name to Knatchbull, who at the time was the Colonel of the Scots Greys. Frances Knatchbull, I am told, was born in Edinburgh Castle about the 1850s.
                                                                                      Best regards, Reamon

[lemon12]

Hello there
Thanks for your reply. I have Frances' birth certificate somewhere, she was my great grandmother's older sister. I found out they were Tomblings about 5 years ago through a distant cousin's research. John Knatchbull/Robert Tomnbling's eldest son Robert kept the name Tombling, married a Scottish girl and settled down in Sheffield - he had 3 sons. My great grandmother was named Jane after her mother (Jane Lemon) but died in childbirth having my grandmother, and she was never told anything about her family. I have had to piece it together the past 30 years or so. I only found out Francis was alive after birth as the Irish records are now on Ancestry, Your grandmother was born 2 Jan 1862 at Leith which is just outside Edinburgh, she was the eldest of the first five born to John aka Robert and Jane Lemon. He had another son by his second wife, and two children by his last wife. John Knatchbull aka Robert Tombling died in Carlisle in 1913. I have researched the Tomblings back to the 1700s. It was very interesting to hear from you. If you have any info on the Lemons I would love to hear, I think they came from Armagh - as they were linked to the Redmonds who were up there too,

[lemon12]

Forgot to add that I have noted down John Knatchbull's army record from Find My Past, he signed up in 1858 in London for the Scots Greys. I havent found his record for before this, He travelled a fair bit and during the time of the census in 1871 he was in Dublin, doesnt have where he was in 1861 but he married Jane Lemon in 1861 in Dublin, he never went further than Scotland and Ireland/ I might find more under Robert Tombling - there were two about from the same village, so have to be careful when looking him up,

[hmstew]

I am coming back into this conversation after a gap of over 5 years, so please forgive me!
I wonder if you have found any more information about the Lemons of Markethill, Armagh? Thomas Lemon married Annie Barklie and had at least 7 children, including Graham, William Redmond and Sarah. If Thomas had previously been married to Sarah Redmond, it would explain why the Redmond name came into the Lemon family so early (ie prior to Sarah Lemon's marriage to John Redmond)

If correct, it creates rather complex relationships with various Redmonds!