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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #27 on: Monday 05 April 10 03:06 BST (UK) »
http://www.dcstechnical.com.au/Rusheen/1.0_People.htm
Property holders Electoral Roll
1887 Menindie Police Division
YANSCH Henry W J  Freehold   Darling River  Tulney Point

Having read the application for naturalisation on NAA, you will have a little more background on the John William Henry YANSCH/JANSCH.  I cannot see the SS VICTORIA arriving in Adelaide in 1857 however the date may not be correct as Johann Wilhelm Heinrich [John William Henry] would have only been  13 years of age.  He states he was born 23 Jul 1844 in Grünberg, Silesia, Prussia.

In 1908 his son August was located about Mildura and adopted son in Wentworth.  He states he doesn't know the location of his other son or daughter. 

There are a couple more deaths in SA - I think it is necessary for your records to have the full information from the indexes.

JANSCH Carl Wilhelm
4 Apr 1873   2 years  Status Child  Relative Johann Wilhelm Heinrich JANSCH [Father]
Residence Julia Creek   Death Place Julia Creek   Cap 52/119

JANSCH Augustine Sarah
6 Mar 1875  9 months  Status Child  Father Henry JANSCH [Father]
Residence Julia Creek   Death Place Julia Creek    Kap 65/237
 
There is a possibility that the correct name was probably originally JAENSCH.

I wonder if it would be worthwhile purchasing a transcription of this death just on the slim chance it may have his wife's correct name.
4532/1923     
YANSCH  John W H
78 years  Wentworth
District Wentworth

I can't see a burial record for him at the Wentworth Cemetery but he may not be buried there.  The death certificate would have his place of burial. 
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToSearch.htm#TranscriptionAgent

Possibly Mary Ann's death
18015/1920     
YENSCH Mary A     
81 years   Wentworth
District Wentworth   
 
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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #28 on: Monday 05 April 10 04:25 BST (UK) »
As already posted, the birth mother's name was shown both as BROWNLEY and SAVARNEY/SAVIANEY on other JANSCH birth regs in SA.
Birth
JANSCH Regina Bertha
27 Aug 1875
Father Heinrich JANSCH   Mother Mary Ann SAVARNEY
At Friedrichswalde   Kap 156/162

Death
BUTLER Regina Bessie
Father Yensch Henry   Mother Mary Ann  BROWNLEE
At Tallangatta  62 years  1937  Reg#17120

and her marriage with the surname mistranscribed ::)
NSW
8145/1891     
BUTLER William
TEUSCH  Regina B     
District Wentworth

Births in NSW
38614/1893     
BUTLER      Harriet S
Father William  Mother Regina B
District Wentworth

17758/1896    
BUTLER Anna B    
Father William  Mother Regina B
District Wentworth     

Births Vic
BUTLER George Henry
Father William   /Mother Bessie Regina YANSCH
At Cobram  1897  Reg#18130

BUTLER Benjamin Gibson
Father William Mother Bessie YANSCH
At Swan Hill  1899  Reg#30250

BUTLER May Gipson
Father William  Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Mildura  1903  Reg#27474

BUTLER Byron August
Father Wm  Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta  1905  REg#14035

BUTLER Erin Eric
Father Wm   Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta  1906  Reg#30297

BUTLER Nancy Nina
Father William   Mother Bessie Regina TENSCH
At Mitta Mitta  1909   Reg#21339
Death
BUTLER Nancy Nina
Father Butler Wm  Mother Bessie Regina YENSCH
1909 At Tallangatta  Reg#10671

BUTLER Bernard Beric
Father William   Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta 1910  Reg#31050

BUTLER Nancy Nellie
Father Willia m Mother Regina Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta  1913  Reg#26631

BUTLER Dale David
Father William  Mother Regina Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta  1919  Reg#15221

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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #29 on: Monday 05 April 10 06:01 BST (UK) »
Further searching

Buried in the Methodist Section of the Wentworth Cemetery
YENSCH  John  William  Henry 
78 years  Date of death 9 Feb 1923
Burial Date  10 Feb 1923

Buried in the General Section of the Wentworth Cemetery
YENSCH Mary  Ann 
81 years  Date of Death  26 Nov 1920 
Burial Date 27 December 1920

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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #30 on: Monday 05 April 10 08:02 BST (UK) »
Cando's Reply #26 explains why I was unable to find Ethel on Electoral Rolls of 1931, 1936, 1937 as she was enrolled with the surname ELTON.
However it seems that she and James Alexander ELTON were not at the same address in those years (possibly for the reason put forward by Cando).  Then she is on the rolls with surname YANSCH, (1942-54)  again at different addresses to him.  I note, though, that her death cert is in the name ELTON.

Olive Myrtle YANSCH is at the same address as John James YANSCH in Mildura in 1942, in 1943 she is enrolled at Block 427, Buronga (division of Wentworth).  I cannot see her after that.  Nor can I see John James YANSCH's wife Florence at all.

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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #31 on: Monday 05 April 10 08:36 BST (UK) »
hi judb,

Olive Myrtle Yansch was my husbands grandmother,  she passed away in January 1996 as far as i know Olive and John James had 2 daughters Janet (my mother in law) and Faye. 
George Clark Green (vicar of Modbury)
(My great great grandfather)
Arthur Esme Cartret Green (My Great Grandfather)
Gertrude Mary Green (nee Pexton)
(My Great Grandmother)

Josiah Webb (My G,G,G Grandfather)
Esther Whitney (My G,G,G, Grandmother)

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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #32 on: Monday 05 April 10 09:54 BST (UK) »
Olive Myrtle YANSCH is at the same address as John James YANSCH in Mildura in 1942, in 1943 she is enrolled at Block 427, Buronga (division of Wentworth).  I cannot see her after that.  Nor can I see John James YANSCH's wife Florence at all.

I can't find this marriage to end 1942 limit of marriage indexes.  As James John Maloney YANSCH married Florence Amy JONES in 1934 are we to assume that it may be his divorce in Nov 1940?  Anyway you may have all this information.

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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #33 on: Monday 05 April 10 11:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando

If Im reading all the posts correctly

Unlikely to be his divorce in 1940 as he died in 1939 :-\

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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #34 on: Monday 05 April 10 12:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando
If Im reading all the posts correctly
Unlikely to be his divorce in 1940 as he died in 1939 :-\
Dale

Link to his WW2 record. 
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=467900

John James appears on the electoral rolls 1942 and 1943.

John James died in 1953 -

YANSCH John James
Father August  Mother Ethel  JELLETT
At Mildura  39 years  1953  Reg#21254

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Re: YANSCH family from Mildura
« Reply #35 on: Monday 05 April 10 12:20 BST (UK) »
Sorry about that - misread age for year

Youre probably correct about the divorce (as usual)

I have found another child for the family of

Johann W H Jansch and Mary Ann Savarney

Marie Johanne JAENSCH born 16 Aug 1866 North Rhine, SA to Heinrich JAENSCH and Mary BROWNLEIGH

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