Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?

[cosmac]

Fred and Edith Armes and family travelled on the Dominion from Liverpool to Quebec arriving 9 June 1907.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/08e3/
Family in 1911

Ethel F. Armes had married 23 Nov 1909 at age 19, working as an operator, living at 333 Bartlett St. Toronto to Francis Pidgeon, 21, a teamster.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08e4/
Her family in 1911 - husband now using Arthur

Fredrick George Armes signed up for the CEF March 16, 1916 and died in the Base Hospital at 465 Gerard St. Toronto on Jan 15, 1917 from pneumonia.

Edith Armes, b. Norwich, 20, married Charles Stanley Wilson, 21, 27 Nov 1912.  Witnesses were Arthur F. Pidgeon and Elsie M. Armes

William Henry White, 24, married Gertrude Dorothy Armes 21, b. England, on 20 September 1918 at Toronto

Herbert Francis Armes 22, b. England, steamfitter married Irene Margaret McNichol, 19 March 1 1924 at Toronto.  wit: Fred J. Armes

Debbie

[polidor]

For J.J.

[J.J.]

Thanks...It doesn't do much more for the image to have enlarged it...I still see lawmaker, but the post with the link to male lacemakers does make sense and here is a link to the lacemakers of Calais. This would tie in with the family having come from France sometime after the birth of Felix
http://www.angelfire.com/al/aslc/lacemake.html
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One of the Lacemakers who were helped on to Australia was a   "de Sombre"

[cosmac]

1901 British census in London working as a parlourmaid in the home of Mary L. Kitson is
Lydia A. Dezombie, 36, widow, b. Calais France FS (does this mean French subject?)

RG13 19 130 11

Debbie

[LemonMallie]

I picked up the two death registrations today - it is your Ethel and her husband Philip.  If you can send me a PM with your email, I will send you the scans.

The informant on Ethel's reg was her daughter Lydia.  There is a marriage entry on the BC Vital Events index for Lydia Cordelia Humber to Harry Smith in Victoria in 1927.  Lydia died in Victoria in 1980, aged 73yrs.  Sorry, I didn't have time to look this up at the library today but if you want the regs, I can pick them up next time I am there.  Lydia's death reg will list her place of birth which might help place the family and Ethel's marriage.

Regards,
Lynwen

[Jacquie in Canada]

So know the question is what happened to Felix and when did Ethel and Philip marry. Gotta love the twists and turns in genealogy.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

Lynwen or poli, what were the names of Philip Humber's parents on the death registration? JJ and I were wondering whether the family may have changed their surname to Humber.

From taking a closer look at the name of Felix's father on the marriage banns form, I'm wondering whether it says Geo phil as an abbreviation of George Philip or could the phi be a bad abbreviation for Felix?

Just throwing out a theory and seeing if it goes anywhere.

Jacquie

[LemonMallie]

Ethel was the informant on Philip's death registration and listed his father as Felix Humber, born England, mother not known.  His birthdate is listed as 7 Feb 1882 in London, England and he was in Canada for 30yrs, in the province & city for 29yrs.  That gives an emigration date of 1911.  Just throwing in some more details as the Felix link seems a bit coincidental......

As for Ethel, her daughter listed the emigration details as 33 yrs for all three giving an arrival date of 1910.

I think you might be on to something because the daughter's name of Lydia Cordelia E on the BC records matches the birth Carole found. 

Damn, you guys are good!

Lynwen

ps.  I'll try and get back to the library tomorrow to pick up Lydia's registrations.

[polidor]

I have emailed the owner of that tree , offered to send him a copy of the Ostler/Dezombre marriage and also asked if he now has any more info regarding Ethel Ostler.  poli

Have had a reply--he said that the info he was given was that Felix changed his name to Humber.--he was passing my query on to the originator of his info and said that they may like to get in touch with me themselves. i'll wait and see.

Meanwhile--i have printed off all the recent findings you have all found and will start to work my way through them. many thanks, everyone on this board is incredibly helpful. poli