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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 April 10 18:17 BST (UK) »
That 1880 birthyear ties in with his age on the marriage cert but no birth on freebmd to support him being born in England
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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 05 April 10 18:29 BST (UK) »
On the 1911 British census 10 Chadwell St. is occupied by George Snowdon.

The same ship and the same month and year of immigration would lead me to believe that the border crossing record ties in with your Felix. 

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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 05 April 10 19:09 BST (UK) »
You have all given me some interesting leads Thank you.

i have now received the m cert sent by Carole and the father's name doesn't look like George, i rather think it looks like Geophrey or something similar, what do you think ? and rather oddly the father's profession is Lacemaker. I thought that was something just the women did.  poli
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 April 10 19:30 BST (UK) »
p.s

I have just found an entry in the Free Reg for a Lydia Cordilia E. Dezombre Born Dec Quarter 1906 Kensington.

The same child is noted in the births on FindMyPast as the surname Dezomode !! poli
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London


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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 April 10 20:44 BST (UK) »
A witness to the marriage of Felix in 1905 was Lydia Snowden.  There is a marriage
26 Apr 1903 St. Mary Magdalene Pancras, Camden, Middlesex between George Stuart Snowden, bachelor and Lydia Adele Dezombre, widow.

The address given on the Canada/US border crossing was where George Snowden was living in 1911.  There is a death for Lydia A. Snowden Sep 1923 Barnet 3a 357 @ 58 which would give a birth year of 1865.  Perhaps Lydia is mother to Felix.

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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 April 10 20:46 BST (UK) »
I found a family tree at the freepages that includes Ethel Gertrude Ostler. It has her husband listed as Philip Humber and indicates they were married in 1905. There is an Ethel Gertrude Humber who died in Victoria on 28 Apr 1943 at the age of 58. There is some incorrect information listed for Ethel in that tree so maybe that Philip was a second husband. There is a death for a Philip Humber in Victoria on 16 Mar 1941. He was 59.

Perhaps another look-up is required to see if that Ethel Humber is the correct person. No need to start a new thread - just go to your first post in this thread and click on "modify" and add "BC look-up" in the subject line.

If that Philip does turn out to be a second husband then it would appear they married before 1915 as Philip's attestation papers for WWI are dated that year and his next of kin is listed as Mrs. E.G. Humber. I can't find a marriage for them though. Here's a link:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08dh/

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United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 05 April 10 22:49 BST (UK) »
I can look up the death registrations Jacquie found.

What are Ethel's parents' names?  Just so I can do a quick check to see if it is a match before printing it out.

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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 05 April 10 23:28 BST (UK) »
I found a family tree at the freepages that includes Ethel Gertrude Ostler. It has her husband listed as Philip Humber and indicates they were married in 1905. There is an Ethel Gertrude Humber who died in Victoria on 28 Apr 1943 at the age of 58. There is some incorrect information listed for Ethel in that tree so maybe that Philip was a second husband. There is a death for a Philip Humber in Victoria on 16 Mar 1941. He was 5

Jacquie

Thats a bother--more hunting now then!! Where are the 'free pages' that you found the tree Jacquie?

LemonMallie--Ethel's parents were--

Charles Henry IV Ostler & Cordelia Copperwheat
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: Ethel Hemson or Ethel Dezombre?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 April 10 01:12 BST (UK) »
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~haslatter/history/bowdens/bk/f232.htm
Probably the site Jacquie is referring to.

There are 6 trees on Ancestry that include Ethel Gertrude Ostler with your parentage and 1884 Essex place of birth.  1 has her marrying Felix and dying April 1943 in Home, Indiana, Pennsylvania, US.  2 have her marrying Phillip Humber and dying in Mayfair Nursing Home, or Mayfair, Middlesex England.  The others have no husband and just the April 1943 date of death.

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