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Silver War Badge
« on: Friday 16 April 10 18:52 BST (UK) »
Hi
on my GGrandfathers medal card for WW1 it has written S.W.B list m/823. I have worked out that it is the Silver War Badge but how do I go about finding out what the m/823 means?
Also what was the difference between the 14 star ( my other GGf was awarded ) and the 15 star.
His name was Arthur Bland Flagg  Sargent 7562 he was in the Rifle Brigade. It would appear that he did not serve for long as the campaign only states 1914-15 .
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Ian

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Re: Silver War Badge
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Re: Silver War Badge
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 April 10 10:28 BST (UK) »
The M/823 code refers to the index for the Roll in which the award of that SWB is recorded. You can only access these at the National archives at Kew. The information that the entry would contain would be the date of enlistment and date of discharge - the reason for discharge [usually "Para 392 xvi King's Regulations - no longer physically fit for war service] sometimes whether this was from wounds or from sickness - occasionally age at discharge.

The difference between the award of the 1914 or the 1915 Stars is based simply on the date on which your man first entered a theatre of war. To be eligible for the 1914 Star a man or woman would have to be in the theatre of war between August 5th 1914, and midnight of November 22/23rd, 1914. After that date and before 31st December 1915 and it was the 1914 -1915 Star.

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Re: Silver War Badge
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 April 10 10:31 BST (UK) »
Just to add, having looked at your post again, that just because the card was stamped 1914-1915 campaign does not mean that he didn't serve beyond those dates - they were simply the dates of the campaign when he first served - he could have continued right until the end of the war or, in your man's case, when he was discharged with the SWB.

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Re: Silver War Badge
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 April 10 16:01 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thanks for the information it has helped a lot . Will have to try and get up to kew some time in the near future
Cheers
Ian

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Re: Silver War Badge
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 June 10 02:29 BST (UK) »
List M/823 for you
The Rifle Brigade in WW1, particularly the 8th Battalion.

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Re: Silver War Badge
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 10:03 BST (UK) »
Andy is this a searchable data anyone can use?

I am looking for William Bruce Glasson, Royal Warwickshire Regiment awarded the SWB 21 Nov 1915 ref: L/A/246

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Re: Silver War Badge
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 June 10 19:39 BST (UK) »
Hi
many thanks Andy that is really kind of you
Am I right in it reading that he was wounded and then no longer physically fit for war service (392 xvi)? but do you know what the first bit means ao II para II
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 June 10 20:34 BST (UK) »
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=48497

Ian this may help if you scroll down to the Army Order II part

Ady
Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

Researching all Great War soldiers from the Spen Valley of West Yorkshire Especially lads from the Cleckheaton Company of 1/4th West Riding Regiment.