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Re: Descendants of James Charles John Barham Wheatley and Ellen Jane Wheatley
« Reply #27 on: Friday 23 April 10 13:17 BST (UK) »
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what is the CWGC?

Commonwealth War Graves Commission:

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Re: Descendants of James Charles John Barham Wheatley and Ellen Jane Wheatley
« Reply #28 on: Friday 23 April 10 13:24 BST (UK) »
I had a look at the cwgc but it starts at 1914 not 1899 or does it have the boer war without the year dates?
Barham/Burram, Brimson, Parkin, Thomas, Underwood, Waldock, Ward, Wheatley,
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Re: Descendants of James Charles John Barham Wheatley and Ellen Jane Wheatley
« Reply #29 on: Friday 23 April 10 14:22 BST (UK) »
You may already have this: I think I have found Ellen in 1871 living with her parents in Mile End which is where her child's birth was registered, later in 1871.

At 16 Alfred St,  Mile End Old Town, Tower Hamlets
John Parkin 56 plumber b Stepney (all family b Stepney)
Mary Ann Parkin 56 wife
Ellen J Parkin 18 unmarried, daughter, dressmaker  (b abt 1853)
Henrietta Rolls 36 married, daughter
Emily Brain 32 married, daughter
Laird Brain 9 grandchild (I don't think it is 'Laird' but very difficult to read)

1861 - the actual census entry says 'Parker' but it's obviously the same family.  Hope the 1871 is correct - it definitely says 'Parkin'
Same address as 1871, entries almost the same - have added changes
John Parker 47
Mary Ann Parker 47
John Parker 20 unmarried schoolmaster
Emily Brain 24 daughter married needlewoman
Ellen Parker 8 scholar
Susan Belcher 3 niece

This looks like the birth of James, March quarter 1851
James Charles John WHEATLEY reg St Geo East, Vol 2, page 115   (St George is part of Stepney reg district now)

Can't find him on a census.

Judith

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

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Re: Descendants of James Charles John Barham Wheatley and Ellen Jane Wheatley
« Reply #30 on: Friday 23 April 10 14:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith

i dont suppose by any chance u have the 1841 census? because it sounds like the right person with her being a dress maker.
but ..
her mothers name was Ellen Parkin

(it said so on her death certificate)
Barham/Burram, Brimson, Parkin, Thomas, Underwood, Waldock, Ward, Wheatley,
I am currently researching these names, if you have any information or think you may be linked, please email me I would love to hear from you!

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Re: Marriage ?? who did they marry? in Victoria?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 23 April 10 14:35 BST (UK) »


Tracey,

You will have to have a look at this site as there are 5 possible matches for a Florence Wheatley getting married, it cost $0.99 to have a look.
There are also 2 possible matches for a death for Maud Wheatley again it costs $0.99 to have a look.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA2574F700805DE7/HomePage?ReadForm&1=Home~&2=~&3=~

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James- Gloucestershire
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Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
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Re: Marriage ?? who did they marry? in Victoria?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 23 April 10 14:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lyne I appreciate your help :)
Barham/Burram, Brimson, Parkin, Thomas, Underwood, Waldock, Ward, Wheatley,
I am currently researching these names, if you have any information or think you may be linked, please email me I would love to hear from you!

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Re: Descendants of James Charles John Barham Wheatley and Ellen Jane Wheatley
« Reply #33 on: Friday 23 April 10 14:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith

i came up with the following

Richard Parkin
Ellen Parkin

Children

Rosina
George
Fanny
Eliza
Richard
Ellen



i thought that this was the right one because Ellen Jane named her children

Ellen Rosina
Eliza Jane
Henry George

  but then in ur censis it says she was a dress maker.. but it doesnt say what she is in this one

so i am not sure what to think.
the Victorian State library told me that Ellen-Janes parents were Richard Parkin and Ellen  parkin  need ward
Barham/Burram, Brimson, Parkin, Thomas, Underwood, Waldock, Ward, Wheatley,
I am currently researching these names, if you have any information or think you may be linked, please email me I would love to hear from you!

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Re: Descendants of James Charles John Barham Wheatley and Ellen Jane Wheatley
« Reply #34 on: Friday 23 April 10 15:01 BST (UK) »
Hmmm - I can't see an Ellen PARKIN on the 1841 census - at least not one living in London.

IGI do have the following so perhaps this is her:

Ellen Jane Parkin
Birth:  25 MAY 1854    
Christening:  18 JUN 1854   St Pauls, Hammersmith, London, England
Father:  Richard Parkin  Mother:  Ellen Elizabeth

Here is that family in 1861 at 8 Beaumont? St Hammersmith
Richard Parkin 36 billiard marker b Yorkshire
Ellen E Parkin 46 b Westminster
Rosina E Parkin 22 dressmaker b Holborn
George A Parkin 20 coachmaker b Holborn
Fanny G Parkin 18 dressmaker b Hammersmith
Eliza S Parkin 11 b Hammersmith
Richard R Parkin 9 b Hammersmith
Ellen I Parkin 6 b Hammersmith - could be Ellen J - hard to read

Hard to see any of them in 1871 although there is a George Parkins, 29, coach builder living in Kingston on Thames  ???

Judith, wondering if all Parkin women were dressmakers 8)

Edit to add - I think you may be right that this is the one
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

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Re: Descendants of James Charles John Barham Wheatley and Ellen Jane Wheatley
« Reply #35 on: Friday 23 April 10 15:04 BST (UK) »
Judith i was told that Ellen-Jane was a dressmaker to Queen Victoria :) 
i didnt have their occupations written down so thanks for that
Barham/Burram, Brimson, Parkin, Thomas, Underwood, Waldock, Ward, Wheatley,
I am currently researching these names, if you have any information or think you may be linked, please email me I would love to hear from you!