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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 09:55 BST (UK) »
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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Aspin
Thanks for that I am a new b at this.  This is such a great website and everyone is so patient and helpful
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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 29 April 10 23:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget
No its true William is buried a couple of hundred miles away from where I live

  He bought the 5 sons out here the girl child Flora Ann 24/3/1880- 24/2/1881 must have died and been left buried back there.


Given the lack of birth  records after Ronald's in 1878, I'm thinking that William and Jessie came out to NZ sometime after 1878.  The last three children were born there and Jessie died in, possibly/probably,  1884.

Is the story of William bringing his sons out  a 'family tale' rather than  evidential?.


This is all rather difficult as there's not really enough evidence to confirm much at all.

Gadget

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It seems that William McLEOD .... accompanied by 1st wife (Jessie) and some of their children, arrived in New Zealand prior to 1880.   NO, I haven't been able to locate them on a passenger list, but the NZ BDM (online) shows the following :

Death

1884 - McLEOD - Jessie - aged 39 years

[Note:  "Place of Event" is not shown on the index - but the death of this Jessie McLEOD appears to have been registered on 24 December 1884, a "near-identical" date to that given on cert. for William's 2nd marriage. ]


There are also these NZ Births.   ???

1880 - McLEOD - Flora Ann

1883 - McLEOD - William Angus

Parents (for both) :   Jessie and William



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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 29 April 10 23:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Lu
You are right those dates do co-relate - and yes it seems to have been a 'family tale' as this proves.   Establishing the correct information ought to help when going back to the Scottish links if necessary when I have sorted out all the information here.
Thanks for that contribution.
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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #31 on: Friday 30 April 10 07:10 BST (UK) »
Hi houston

I'm not saying that they aren't/weren't in New Zealand. I'm saying that I can't find any of the birth registrations after Ronald's or Jessie's death registration in Scotland or any of them on the 1881 census which suggests that they were born in NZ and that Jessie might have died there.


Gadget

Hi both ~

I think that this might have been a better quote   :)

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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #32 on: Monday 03 May 10 01:56 BST (UK) »
Dear Gadget,
To date the information on Registration of Death of Annabella McLeod states
Father: John McLeod  Occupation: Farmer on the Estate of the Duke of Sutherland in Scotland
Mother: Flora McLeod.
Mothers maiden surname is not clear looks like Duncan but more likely to be MacDonald as my grandfather, father and brother all have it as a middle name.

So it appears to confirm your post 6 (Census 1851) and that Annabella is definitely Williams sister    Is it possible to follow the thread back from the father John McLeod?
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« Reply #33 on: Monday 03 May 10 10:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Houston

I couldn't find a marriage between John and Flora. This is not unusual because the only ones that are easily available  are those carried out by a Church of Scotland minister and there were other forms of marriage that were legal under Scots law

John McLeod is not an easy one to check up on but I'll have a look later (It's hard on the eyes  :'( )

I did find this for Flora, if you recall:


This is what remains of the 1851 family in 1871:

Contin, Lochbroom

Neil Mcleod, 29, shepherd.
Flora Mcleod, mother,  66, annuitant
Annabella Mcleod, sister, 26, general domestic servant


all b. Lochbroom

I've got a possible death for Flora in 1877, widow of John Macleod, crofer but her parents are given as Donald McKenzie and Ellen (?)  Macdonald.  I can't find any baptisms for the children so far or a marriage.


The main problem is all those McLeods  :-\






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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #34 on: Monday 03 May 10 11:01 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Just remembered that the Lochbroom records only start in the late 1790s so neither John nor Flora will be listed in the baptisms.

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Re: McLEOD - Lochbroom
« Reply #35 on: Monday 03 May 10 21:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget
Whenever convenient to you - I've had to increase font size on my screen also - look after the eyes.
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Macdonald. Western Isles Scotland
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Webb. Thaxted Essex
Westh. Knudsker, Denmark
Gillham,Gilham Kent England
Monk, Kent England