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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #9 on: Friday 20 August 10 00:20 BST (UK) »
Ive got John's death cert of 1881. It states that he was the Barrack Master in Mullingar Co. Westmeath and cause of death was by suicide whilst in a state of temperory insantity. Ive no idea where to go to try find any more info on him. He wouldnt have had a pension.
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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 December 10 20:39 GMT (UK) »


Hi there, Susan sutton was living in grand canal bank in 1901 with her daughter louisa.  She died in dublin in 1906 and is buried in glasnevin!  Did you ever find out which regiment John Sutton was in?

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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 11:13 GMT (UK) »
He served with the 26th and 79th Regiments of Foot, there are records for him on FindMypast, four images which show the battles in which he was involved, including the battle of Ferozeshah.

He was discharged on the 25th February 1862.

WO97 / 1615 / 167

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 12:44 GMT (UK) »

Hi there Jebber, thanks for that very speedy reply, but now I think there must be 2 John Suttons!  My relative died in Mullingar in 1881.   He had a number of children when he was the barrick sargent in Mullingar, westmeath in Ireland between the years 1869 and 1878.  However all his childrens birth certs describe him as a barrack sargent, but as yet I do not know which barracks - perhaps it is a barracks other than a millitary one .   :-\


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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Barrack Sergeants were employed by the Barrack Department. They were discharged regular soldiers usually also in receipt of a pension. So if everything else matches he is likely to be the man discharged in 1862.

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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Ken, that information adds some  clarity  :) 

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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Ken has already given you the logical explanation, I have no doubt that the man I found is the one you have in the 1861 census.

I suggest you get the birth certificate of the youngest child born in Gillingham,  that should confirm John's Regiment.

SUTTON Arthur Ernest Handlin Medway Kent 1860 Oct-Nov-Dec

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jebber, great I'll get that birth cert as soon as possible.   thanks :)

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Re: St Marys Barracks Chatham
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 December 10 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Thats definately the right John Sutton. Great to have so much information on him. It also explains why his son's birth cert didnt have a regiment on it as he was transfered to "staff". One more mystery ... he married Susan Handlin (born Mauritius 1837) in India in 1852 which would point to Susan's father being in the Army as well. Ive noticed that the 29th Regiment was also in Mauritius the year of Suan's birth. Could it be that John Handlin was in the 29th Reg as well?
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Archbold
Healy
Carmody
Murphy
Mullen