Confusion over birth date of Daniel PENDER.

[SamnJoan]

I am trying to find the true date of birth of Daniel Pender, son of Peter Pender and Mary Speed.

IGI have two different Ancestral Files for the family.   One gives Daniel Pender born abt 1713 Falmouth and the second says born abt 1718 Budock.   These also mention siblings Benjamin Pender, Peter Pender and Mary Pender, with equally confusing dates.   I have also found, on IGI, Daniell Pendar christening 06 Jan 1726 St Gluvias with parents Peter Pendar and Mary  

In father Peter Pender's Will (1730) he mentions children Benjamin, his executor, Mary, Daniel and Peter.   Osprey found mention of two Marys bp at St Gluvias 1718 &1725, two Annes 1728 & 1730 and Daniell 1726 all to parents Peter and Mary.   He also found a possible burial for the first Mary.

Assuming that both Annes also died I still have to tie in Benjamin and Peter, to be sure I have the right family and the right Daniel.  Maybe there was also more than one Daniel    The Daniel I am looking for married circa 1756 Frances Elizabeth. 

Can anyone help me sort out this confusion please

Joan

(This is following on from my previous thread about Peter Pender, Mayor of Falmouth.)

[osprey]

see also
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,450092.0.html

Ancestral files are submitted records and should be treated with the utmost caution. It's like looking at trees on the net that may or may not be accurate. If you look at the extracted records only by using the Hugh Wallis site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm
it cuts out all the confusing & sometimes made up info.

Are there any sources given for the baptisms? There is no entry in either the Budock batch or the Falmouth batch for a baptism for a Daniel Pender.

You can get copies of the parish entries from the record office in Truro
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14713

There may be witness names on the 1755 marriage that help your search

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=428263&dbtype=marriages&formval=

You could ask the opcs to see if there is a Pender baptism in their records
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/a_d/budock.php
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/e_g/falmouth_kingcharles.php

Does the 1730 will suggest that Benjamin is the older son?

 

[nanny jan]

Hi,

The IGI has 7 extracted baptism records for children of Peter Pender/Pendar & Mary;  all at St. Gluvias, Cornwall.

Peter (1723),  Mary (1718 & 1725), Daniel (1726), Benjamin (1716), Anne (1728 & 1730)


Nanny Jan

[osprey]

yup, those are the baptisms I found & put on the earlier post.

[Gadget]

Yes - I checked the Cornwall baptisms and got the same info  there 


Gadget

[SamnJoan]

Hi Osprey, Nanny Jan and Gadget

Thank you all for your trouble.   

Once again, Osprey, you have provided me with some fantastic sites.   I will bear in mind what you say about the Ancestral Files in future.   One set gave no references, but the other did have references against each name, tho' not against the births - e.g. Daniel Pender (AFN:B3J3-1R), born abt 1713 Falmouth.

To answer your other question - Does the 1730 will suggest that Benjamin is the older son?   I did get the impression that Benjamin was the eldest son, partly because he was made executor and partly because his father leaves the house and contents in Penryn jointly to his wife Mary, as long as she remains a widow, and son Benjamin, and afterwards to Benjamin.   Also there are financial provisions for Mary, Peter and Daniel until they reach the age of 14 years and then until they reach 21 years, but none for Benjamin.

The above info from the Will seems to bear out the age differences in the St Gluvias baptisms that you have given me, Nanny Jan.   Obviously neither Anne  survived.   Also Benjamin died 02.12.1769 aged 54, which more or less agrees with your date.

Thank you all for your help.

Joan