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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 12 May 12 21:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbinoz

Was one of the 8 Mary born 1857 Birmingham, d. June Q 1906 Aston Birmingham?

If so thats my Gt Grandmother!

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PENTLAND in Warks/Staffs/Yorks, Arm IRL: Chch NZ post 1884 and SCO pre 1800.
COLLINS aka COLLERIN , GALLAGHER & COX [RC] Highgate, Small Heath, Birmingham 1840-, Mayo IRL bef.
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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 13 May 12 09:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin

Did you discover which of the two Gallagher families you are descended from?
If it's indeed the Hugh and Catherine (née Haggart) who Barb is researching, then we are related too.  I am descended from Hugh and Catherine's daughter Catherine b. 1862.

I've made a bit of progress with the Gallaghers but none with the Haggarts  :( 

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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 13 May 12 16:10 BST (UK) »
Hi, you were quick!

I think I have concluded, from the family I found in the 1881 Census RG11 2975/47  that my Mary was probably the one with David as father and Mary as mother simply becasue she is a warehouse girl gilder and plater and that was what her husband, Mr Cox who she married 2 years later also did. She is also living with her Mum and Dad at Ct 47/8 Irving St, Birmingham which is not that far from Alcester street.

David is aged 50 and from Cork while Mary is aged 50 from Kildare.

Any thoughts apart fro sadness they are not your family!

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FRYER/FRIAR Lurgan Armagh, Edin & Glasgow SCO
BROOKES WH & WFP RA WW1 & 2
NEWSON & 'WATTS' Felixstow SFK, NZ,
HORTON, Surgn  Warwicks. FORTESCUE
PARKER, Charles, 1800-1853 Milit.Ornament Manuf. Aston, Gravelly Hill, Birmingham,

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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #30 on: Monday 14 May 12 03:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin and also Bev, just seen this, looks like you have it sorted.
"Our" Mary Ann Gallagher married an Isaac Hunt and died in Barwell (Hinkley) Leicestershire in 1916.
Isaac was a boot and shoe finisher and their 4 children were in the same kind of trade.
Good luck in your research, shame they're not the same family!
Shows you really need to be a detective to get the answers in family history!
Barb
Rosethorne or similar spelling anywhere anytime!
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Wilkinson in Penrith Cumberland
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Elwell & Caddick in Tipton Staffs.
Allen in Shenington Oxfordshire
Batchelor in Kenilworth Warks
Hubbard in Rowington Warks

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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #31 on: Monday 14 May 12 07:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Barb  ;D

Thanks for confirming that, having seen Colin's posts I was in the process of tying down Mary Ann's husband.
Hope all is will in wintry Oz   :)

Sorry we're not related, Colin!

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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #32 on: Monday 14 May 12 10:45 BST (UK) »
Hi there Bev, if you have a look on my Ancestry tree I have Mary Ann on there with hubbie and kids, I'm pretty sure I've got the right one. Sometimes I come unstuck but she was the only Mary Ann Gallagher of the right age & birthplace.
Let me know if you have any trouble getting on it.
Take care
Barb
Rosethorne or similar spelling anywhere anytime!
Ovington, Taylor, Wilkin, Summers, Stones, Charlton in Durham
Wilkinson in Penrith Cumberland
Turner, Jones, Gallagher in Aston Birmingham
Shipp & Fellows in Birmingham
Elwell & Caddick in Tipton Staffs.
Allen in Shenington Oxfordshire
Batchelor in Kenilworth Warks
Hubbard in Rowington Warks

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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 14 August 13 19:18 BST (UK) »
Maybe of interest.
Haggards lived in the gamekeepers lodge on the Moate (Mote) Estate of Lord Crofton just on the edge of Roscommon Town right beside Tremane.  I wonder is that one of the men in the old photos posted earlier. As far as I know one of his daughters still lives in Roscommon Town.

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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 10 July 18 19:47 BST (UK) »
Reviving this old thread because in the search for Haggarts in Roscommon I have made a bit of a breakthrough  with Patrick Haggart, the father of Catherine who married Hugh Gallagher in Birmingham.
Thanks to Ancestry's free weekend I have found Patrick still alive  in 1846 in the Poor Relief records, recorded as 'a weaver in poor circumstances'.  He is residing in Cloonlee townland, Kiltullagh.  This is the first time I have ever found a record of the man's existence.
Rather a basic question, I know, but since this was the era of the potato famine, would I be right in thinking that if Patrick died in the following years, as a poor person his death and burial may not have been recorded?
Thanks
Bev
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Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Haggart from Roscommon
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 10 July 18 23:24 BST (UK) »
Doesn't need to be the era of the famine for a death and burial not to be recorded, even when civil registration started many deaths were not registered.
If he died in a workhouse and if the workhouse records survived it's possible his death might have been recorded.
You can't fish on a empty stomach so give the man one or two records so he knows how good it tastes.