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Offline Shanko

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1857 Army records help
« on: Saturday 26 March 05 10:53 GMT (UK) »
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I have my 3rd Gt Grandfathers Army records which date back to 1857, Im hoping someone can help me as in 1873 he was awarded 3 G.L Badges and in 1877 he was again award 4 Clasps does anyone know what these are as in what does the G.L stand for and what would the clasp be?

Also another question in 1882 he was awarded 5 G.C Pay, what would that be??

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Re: 1857 Army records help
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 March 05 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shanko

I should think the G C stands for Good Conduct. Not sure about the G L. Will have a look around and see whta comes up

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GALL-Norfolk,Cardiff,LondonTHOMAS-London,Herts,
PRIOR-N.Ireland,WOODS-N.Ieland,
DAWKES-Warks,DAVIS-Warkes'Wales,
JENNINGS-Surrey,Warks,London,SHELDRAKE-Essex,London,
BRITTON-Berks,BLAKELEY-Dewsbury W.Yorks

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Re: 1857 Army records help
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 March 05 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shanko

the L C could be an abbreviation of Long Service and Good Conduct.
Mick
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GALL-Norfolk,Cardiff,LondonTHOMAS-London,Herts,
PRIOR-N.Ireland,WOODS-N.Ieland,
DAWKES-Warks,DAVIS-Warkes'Wales,
JENNINGS-Surrey,Warks,London,SHELDRAKE-Essex,London,
BRITTON-Berks,BLAKELEY-Dewsbury W.Yorks


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Re: 1857 Army records help
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 March 05 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Mick

Thanks for the Good Conduct :)

.............The other one for the badges is G.L there is no L.C

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Re: 1857 Army records help
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 March 05 23:24 BST (UK) »
The clasps will generally signify a battle he was involved in. It was customary for a medal to be awarded to all participants in a campaign, e.g China War medal. This would then come with clasps signifying the battles participated in, e.g Canton, Taku Forts.

Are you sure it's not LC badges as well? I know the marines used to award GC badges on a regular basis, note they really were badges rather than medals.
WEST, PROCTOR - Fillongley, Warwickshire
CLARK(E) - Aston, Warks & Leicestershire
BETTERIDGE & THORNTON - Oxfordshire
FISHER -  Bromsgrove, Worcs,
SLAUGHTER - Evesham, Worc s & Birmingham

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Re: 1857 Army records help
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 March 05 08:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks for clearing up the Clasps for me :) No L C Badges at all, the Long Service medals are of different later dates

He was in the Army not the Marines so there goes that idea but thanks for telling me that as I do have a Marine in the family which helped with the G.C I have on his records

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Re: 1857 Army records help
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 March 05 08:48 BST (UK) »
Army records for that time are held at GRO Kew.  I am sure they will be able to tell you.  There is an Army Museum too - several in fact.  Have a look on Google for one near you.
Andrea

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Re: 1857 Army records help
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 March 05 09:06 BST (UK) »
Andrea

Yes I know the records are at Kew and I give up on the people working there, I have emailed them regarding Army things but they send an email back telling me they don't know and to contact as you have mentioned the Army Museums but even they have no idea. :( So I stick to this board as I have gotten unanswered questions answered for me

Im in Australia so theres no British Army Museums here

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 March 05 09:48 BST (UK) »
I am going to the museum in Eastbourne soon and will try and remember to ask them.  Can you send me a PM with the details on then I can print it and it will remind me?
Andrea