wat is a shoemaker journeyman??

[paulsplace2009]

does anyone have a clue what this is?

cheers

paul

[Ruskie]

Good explanation here on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman

[carolynb]

Hi
there is a posting by Romilly who says

A journeyman is someone still learning their trade and usually apprenticed to a master
so he must have been an apprentice shoemaker

If anyone knows anymore I am sure they will let you know

Carolyn

[Lodger]

A journeyman was and still is, a fully qualified tradesman, having served a fixed term of apprenticeship. He was and still is, entitled to move around from place to place. Apprentices were usually tied to a master for the duration of the apprenticeship, although this practice had long-since ceased by the time I was an apprentice in the 1960s.
The term "master" was only used by the owner of a business, this is still the case today.
No doubt someone else will explain all about "journeyman" and "de jour".

Lodger.
(A journeyman).

[JenB]

Lots of definitions on the Rootschat Lexicon http://www.rootschat.com/links/08op/

[mosstrooper]

My G-G-Grandfather, William Kerr spent his whole life in the Boot and Shoe trade in the town of Dumfries. All
the certificates and Census forms plot his life from the age of 14 when he was described as "Apprentice Shoemaker" then later as "Boot Closer" I assume he was working in a large concern where the various parts of making boots and shoes was broken down into various tasks. Then he became "Journeyman Shoemaker" which as has been said above is a qualified Tradesman. Finally he was described as "Master Shoemaker"

All the trades in Dumfries and other towns were strictly controlled by Guilds, or as we know them today, Unions.
Today, anyone can set themselves up in business and call themselves anything they wish, without any formal training or experience. If we stick to the item in question, our shoes are made by children in far off lands, they are repaired here in a Heel Bar, to the best of my knowledge no one outside Bond Street in London has the knowledge to make boots or shoes.

James.

[bleckie]

Hi James

You may not find commercial boot and shoe makers, but you will find them, working for the NHS in orthotic department's throughout the country.
Granted not all hospital orthotic departments have qualified boot and shoe makers but some do.

Yours Aye.
BruceL

[Harold1066]

James,

There are lots of people that are still making hand-made shoes & boots  - especially those used in re-enactments.  I still have a couple of pairs of medieval style from when I used to do war of the roses battles.  As far as I'm aware because of the way the shoes where made they can not be made by machine.

[paulsplace2009]

Funnily enough,it was the kerrs in my family tree that were shoemakers!!