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Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« on: Wednesday 19 May 10 01:12 BST (UK) »
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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 May 10 11:31 BST (UK) »
couple of questions to help;

do you know where & when he was born?
where was son born?
are you sure it was otterburn Hall, northumberland as Google states this was built in 1869. there is an otterburn Hall in N Yorks which is much older

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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 May 10 12:03 BST (UK) »
are you sure it was otterburn Hall, northumberland

It is Otterburn in Northumberland http://www.rootschat.com/links/08q2/
There is a similar enquiry on this board http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.brk.general/463.621.1/mb.ashx

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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 May 10 16:51 BST (UK) »
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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 May 10 21:06 BST (UK) »
In the 16th century the Halls of Otterburn were the headsmen of the surname of Hall, the chief surname in the Regality of Redesdale. I don't know of any published family tree, but there are mentions in Border history.
John Hall of Otterburne 1537 represented Redesdale at a meeting of the Pilgrimage of Grace rebels, but the Redesdale men restricted their participation to local plundering, and after the rebellion's failure John Hall was one of those who offered to pay compensation. He was one of those hired as Underkeepers in 1540 on the principle of setting a thief to catch a thief.
In 1568 Richard Hall of Otterburn was buying land in the area.
In 1630 John Hall of Otterburn gentleman purchased Fallowlees.
While in prison awaiting trial Mad Jack Hall remarked to a fellow prisoner "Our fathers gained land in Cromwell's time as sequestrators of rebels, now we are going to lose them for being rebels."
There is a marriage in St Nicholas Newcastle 1st April 1703 of Mr John Hall Elsdon [the Otterburn parish] and Mrs Elizabeth Bowes, Bigg market
The Rise and Fall of the English Highland Clans by Ralph Robson gives a lot of detail about the Halls of Redesdale.
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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 May 10 21:21 BST (UK) »
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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 August 10 15:42 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at the DNA aspect of the HALL's - there is a number of us who are exploring an unique DNA marker 590 for HALL's of the North East England and Border Reivers.  If interested let me know
Alan Hall
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Looking for William HALL a mason bn c 1780 wife Rachel RICHARDSON - father posssibly Joseph HALL

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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 August 10 21:00 BST (UK) »
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Re: Crazy John (Jack) Hall
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 August 10 22:40 BST (UK) »
Alan
Have you considered the 1841 and 1851 census. William Hall mason aged approx 60 and wife Rachel approx 55 is living in St John's lane in Newcastle with son James approx 30 a coach painter and daughter Ann 25.
The couple are missing in 1851 but James is still living at the same address born Belford Northumberland married to a Gateshead girl with 2 lodgers in the coach bulding trade.
Peter