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Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« Reply #54 on: Friday 31 July 20 08:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for these points, valmai3.

I am focusing on the time between (most of) the regiment returning from Ceylon to Gosport in June 1839 and the shipping off to Glasgow in July 1840. Where in Gosport were they barracked, and was the whole regiment there? (did the Depot stay in the Portsmouth area?)

After they ship out, they seem to be divided between Glasgow and Dublin. Their Major-General Grant actually dies en route between Glasgow and Dublin in 1841. Are there any details about where they are quartered in Glasgow? I think in Dublin it is Richmond Barracks.

Then in July 1843 they are off to New South Wales..and NZ.

My interest is in an ensign in the 58th, later Captain, Henry Colin Balneavis b.1818 in Ghent (even later Lieut.-Col. in NZ force in Auckland). And mostly in his whereabouts as ensign (from 1837) and lieutenant (1841, I think). I have a lot of data on the rest of his life already.


PS. Is anyone aware of a topic touching on the 213 years of the Scots Brigade in the Netherlands?

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Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 01 August 20 09:35 BST (UK) »
Sorry Clemens,  I have nothing more regarding Gosport.  Regarding Scotland, 1841 Census has James billeted with members of regiment - Civil Parish Edinburgh, Canongate, Midlothian.  Before that they were in Glasgow. No mention of wife but she was probably waiting for birth of baby in Dublin.  We know that James was in Dublin by 22nd November 1841 in time for birth.  Then by 20 Jan 1844 they had departed Woolwich on convict ship 'Equestrian' bound for Tasmania and N.S.W. Australia. Serg. James took part in First Maori War - 1845-1846 - Bay of Islands, New Zealand against Hone Heke and his ally Ally Kuwati.

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Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 01 August 20 10:04 BST (UK) »
thanks valmai3, - your 2018 mail and this week's were already a good help.

Piecing it together, I get the following:

Movements of the 58th Regiment of Foot (Rutlandshire) -1828-1859

In Ceylon, India from 1828 to 1839 (after taking part in Peninsular War)

To England (Portsmouth/Gosport) June 1839

To Glasgow from Gosport in July 1840 -so a year in Gosport, but where?     (And in February 8 1840 Naval and Military Gazette the 58th were rumoured to go off to Cork on “The Jupiter”, i.e. Fermoy Barracks, where some soldiers of the regiment were in 1834, while the rest were in Ceylon. The Jupiter was much delayed returning with the 61st from Ceylon, and in March had to go into Cork b/c strong east wind in Channel. Then refit. -they did not go to Cork)

Still in Scotland 1841 (Glasgow and Edinburgh), but also in Richmond Barracks, Dublin. (Recruiting in Scotland or pre-1845 stirrings? )

Still in Dublin July 1842 (cf birth in officer’s family)

To New South Wales, Australia, in July 1843 (gradually, some soldiers as guards on 19 convict ships 1843-45)

On to New Zealand from Sydney in March-April 1845, (ships North Star, Slains Castle) Bay of Islands, North Island, Auckland. Flagstaff Wars. (some back and forth Sydney-NZ)

Back from New Zealand in March 1859 (started out in November 1858), many, over 300 men, discharged in NZ.

The 58th today is the 3rd battaillon 'Steelbacks' of the Royal Anglian Regiment with HQ in Bury St. Edmonds - so I might ask if the museum there has further details :-)

How usual was it for a regiment to be split up for several years?. Its major-general Grant actually died in 1841 en route from Glasgow to Dublin, at Tontine Inn


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Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« Reply #57 on: Monday 03 August 20 08:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you Clemens for filling in some of my gaps.