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Bibby's - Hawkers - Essex - 1850-1900'S
« on: Monday 28 March 05 05:57 BST (UK) »
Any information on the name Bibby that applies to travellers/gypsies would be most appreciated. Grandfather born 1907 Maldon Essex, before that it's a blur ??? thanks...Lyn
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White, Curtis, Lockyer, Drew - St. Pancras
Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
Caddy - Stafford



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Re: BIBBY - TRAVELLERS - WALTHAMSTOW/ESSEX. 1850-1900'S
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 August 05 21:36 BST (UK) »
A lot of Bibby's settled in and around Eastwood/Rochford in Essex.  Many are buried at St Laurence's Church Eastwoodbury Lane at the end of the airport runway and their graves are regularly attended and must assume that family still live locally.  My g grandfather -  Jack Livermore married in Malden and left the pea picking field to get married and go back to work. He too went to Eastwood. Many lived in vans there until compulsory purchase orders were brought. Most lived on the Bohemian Estate, which when built on a lot moved into, including Bohenian Way and Belgrave Road.

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Re: BIBBY - TRAVELLERS - WALTHAMSTOW/ESSEX. 1850-1900'S
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 12:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Poly1963. I know the area very well as I am originally from Rochford. Both sets of my grandparents are buried at Eastwood Church, and many others of the family. You are right, there are relatives still tending the graves. I am trying to find the birth of my Gt Grandfather, Henry Bibby. Trouble is, I am finding it difficult trace him  before arriving at Rochford. I have found most of his children, and they moved down from the Epping area to Rochford. thank's for replying.  :) Lyn
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White, Curtis, Lockyer, Drew - St. Pancras
Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
Caddy - Stafford



Census information is Crown Copyright


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Re: BIBBY - TRAVELLERS - WALTHAMSTOW/ESSEX. 1850-1900'S
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 16:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Lyn

I have found a Henry Bibby born in Chelmsford born in 1840 with I presume his partner and the children were all born in Epping. 

See below.

Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Henry BIBBY   Head   U   Male   40   Chelmsford, Essex, England   Hawker     
 Harriet WRIGHT    Other    U   Female   55   Saffron Walden, Essex, England   Hawker     
 Joseph WRIGHT   Son      Male   12   Stanstead, Essex, England       
 Mary A. WRIGHT   Daur      Female   7   Stanstead, Essex, England       
 James WRIGHT   Son      Male   4   Epping, Essex, England       
 Alfred WRIGHT   Son      Male   4   Epping, Essex, England       
 Grace WRIGHT   Daur      Female   2   Epping, Essex, England       

Caravan
  Census Place Harlow, Essex, England
  Family History Library Film   1341419
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   1738 / 57
  Page Number   13

I found this on www.familysearch.org there are a few others from Essex but this would seem the best match.

Contact me privately if you want.  I still have contact with Eastwood and regularly go to the Churchyard.

Best wishes

Jenny

London: Smith, Huntingford, Goldstone, Dupuy, Lanigan, Barrett, Dyke, Chaplin, Dupuis, Le Brument, Velu, Huet, Hatenville, Lovell, Giles

Essex: Romany connections - Loveridge,  Livermore, Chillystone, Stone, Lamb

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Re: BIBBY - TRAVELLERS - WALTHAMSTOW/ESSEX. 1850-1900'S
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 December 07 00:01 GMT (UK) »
i to have many family members buried at eastwood church.
its worth knowing also that the some of the ''webbs''changed their name to bibby/biby back in early 1900's so you may want to look under that name as well.
the phone book may be of help as there are still alot of bibbys in this area.

happy hunting
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buckley
webb
boswell (shadrack line)
pearse
lee
smith (inc epping forest)
heron
bibby

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Re: BIBBY - TRAVELLERS - WALTHAMSTOW/ESSEX. 1850-1900'S
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 May 08 15:17 BST (UK) »
Hello Amanda

I've only just found your reply to my posting. Thank you for your input. I have been told that the names were changed around. One things for sure, it's difficult to track them down  ;)

Thanks .. :) Lyn
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White, Curtis, Lockyer, Drew - St. Pancras
Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
Caddy - Stafford



Census information is Crown Copyright

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Re: Bibby's - Hawkers - Essex - 1850-1900'S
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 May 08 07:53 BST (UK) »
hi all,
looking at the census that poly1963 has listed. seems like they used the wifes name there and not the bibby name???  wonder if that has been a trait all along  and thats where the webb name comes in? ??? maybe a wifes maiden name  :-\
buckley
webb
boswell (shadrack line)
pearse
lee
smith (inc epping forest)
heron
bibby

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Re: BIBBY - TRAVELLERS - WALTHAMSTOW/ESSEX. 1850-1900'S
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 09:41 BST (UK) »
...... I have found most of his children, and they moved down from the Epping area to Rochford. thank's for replying.  :) Lyn

Hi essexgirl, they moved down from the Epping area from Rochford? I'm trying to find out when the gypsy presence around Eastwood began (hi aa1webb!) , my information so far being that it started when Epping Forest gypsies relocated to Eastwood in the 1870s. Long story why I'm interested, already went into it on another thread on this board!.....but briefly it is to do with alleged Romany affiliations of alleged witch George Pickingill.

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Re: Bibby's - Hawkers - Essex - 1850-1900'S
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 May 11 12:26 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have only just come across this site while doing a google search.
I have also been trying to trace my family tree.
My relatives migrated from the UK in the 1880-90s
When they arrived in Australia they started Bibby Bros Circus. that lasted until the first world war.
They then went on to the showgrounds.
My grandfathers name was Emerys Albert Bibby, he was better known as Bert Bibby.
I think we still have some connection to some Bibbys that are showman in the UK.
I do not have any contact details for them so if anyone could help me out it would be great.
Regards,
Gary Brophy

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