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Terence Keating mystery
« on: Sunday 13 June 10 02:05 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help with my Terence KEATING mystery?

He was born ca 1839 in Dublin Ireland, emigrated to Australia and was last sighted in Albury NSW (ca 1868, I think - his name appears on land deeds then). He was still alive in 1876 when his father died (mentioned on his death certificate but isn't mentioned in the obituary). I can't find a marriage or death for him in Australia or NZ

I stumbled upon a record on Ancestry in the US Mortality Schedules. This Terence Keating was born in Ireland about 1839, married, and died in Dec 1880 in Union New Jersey.

Sounds like a good fit. But I can't find him (or his wife/family) in the 1880 US census on the LDS site.

Can anyone help?

Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 June 10 02:37 BST (UK) »
Hello Jang.

This is what the record says:-

Name: Terence Keating  Male  Married
Place of Birth: Ireland
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Age: 41
Month of Death: Dec
Cause Of Death: Fac of vertibia
Census Year: 1880
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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 June 10 02:40 BST (UK) »
Would this fit

1870 Census Newark Ward 2, Essex, New Jersey

Thomas Keating 30 Born Ireland. Morocco Finisher
Ann Keating 32 Born Ireland
Francis Keating 3 Born New Jersey
Elizabeth Keating 2 Born New jersey
Edward Keating 1 Born New York
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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 June 10 03:06 BST (UK) »
Hi dettori28

Thanks for the feedback. I just realised the LDS pilot program has New Jersey deaths and found Terrance Keating died Dec 1880, Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, aged 40, occupation labourer, both parents born Ireland (which fits)

But I still can't find him in the 1880 census. If he died in December you would think he would be there.

I can't find a marriage either.

Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 June 10 03:33 BST (UK) »
On that Union,NJ death record it says the record is "For The Year Ending MAY 31 1880" so Terence actually died in DEC 1879.  That is why u don't find him in the 1880 US census.  Do u know his wife's name?
Jenkins-Salmon-Dwyer-Hill-Sargent/ Seargent-Young/ Jung-White-Kinney/ Kenny-Cook-Waterman-O'Neill-McDonald-Shufelt/ Shufeldt-Wilbur/ Wilber-Patterson--Covey-Tisdale-Wells-Dodge-Palmer.

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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 June 10 04:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks, leagen, that explains it :-)

Still looking at the LDS site - I found a couple of potential children:

Adelade Keating, born 30 Aug 1877, bapt 01 Sep 1877 St Patrick, Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, father Terance Keating, Mother Mary Mccrink

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Catherine Anna Kating, born 4 Feb 1879, bapt 9 Feb 1879 St. Patrick, Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, father  Terance Kating, mother - Mccrank
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 June 10 04:30 BST (UK) »
I found a Mary (at least I Think it says Mary) Keating who died in Union in Jan of 1880 at age 38 of Pnumonia and she was born in Canada w/father born in Ire and mother born in Canada.  Maybe this is the Mary wife of Terence.  I can't make out if she was (m) or not, the record is hard to read.  It is on the same death record Page a few names below Terence, at Ancestry.  Maybe u can read the name and if she was (m).  It said Terence Was (m) and if She died in Jan after he died in Dec then it Should say Widowed for Her.
Jenkins-Salmon-Dwyer-Hill-Sargent/ Seargent-Young/ Jung-White-Kinney/ Kenny-Cook-Waterman-O'Neill-McDonald-Shufelt/ Shufeldt-Wilbur/ Wilber-Patterson--Covey-Tisdale-Wells-Dodge-Palmer.

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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 June 10 04:39 BST (UK) »
How do I access the LDS pilot program?
Jenkins-Salmon-Dwyer-Hill-Sargent/ Seargent-Young/ Jung-White-Kinney/ Kenny-Cook-Waterman-O'Neill-McDonald-Shufelt/ Shufeldt-Wilbur/ Wilber-Patterson--Covey-Tisdale-Wells-Dodge-Palmer.

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Re: Terence Keating mystery
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 June 10 05:18 BST (UK) »
I figured out the LDS problem.
Jenkins-Salmon-Dwyer-Hill-Sargent/ Seargent-Young/ Jung-White-Kinney/ Kenny-Cook-Waterman-O'Neill-McDonald-Shufelt/ Shufeldt-Wilbur/ Wilber-Patterson--Covey-Tisdale-Wells-Dodge-Palmer.