1841-51-61 lookup Please : Tantram

[Gaye]

It's a long overdue twig on my tree that needs help please.

I have :

William Tantrim Thornton b. abt 1810???
wife : Emily nee Carpenter

One known son :
George William Thornton b. abt 1835 Ludlow


The son came to New Zealand farming about 1863 ish....
marrying and dying here.

Need a break with this one please someone.....

Cheers and fingers are crossed 
GAYE

[z]

Hi Gaye

Have had a look at the 41/51/61 census for the combination of people that you mention - William Tantrim Thornton b 1810??? Emily nee Carpenter and son George William Thornton b 1835 Ludlow I could'nt find anything using this name combination so decided to drop the Thornton and use the surname Tantrim instead and have found this:- IGI George Tantrum Christenened 17th Dec 1832 Ludlow Shropshire, parents William Tantrum and Sarah.
Looked them up in the census and found this in the 1841 census:- Piece 430 Folio 3 Pg 2- Township: Farlow Civil Parish: Stottesdon  County: Herefordshire - consulted Genuki - Stottesdon, Shropshire a parish mainly in the Cleobury division of Stottesdon Hundred, county Salop etc
William Tantram b 1806 Herefordshire Sawyer
Sarah Tantram b 1811 Herefordfordshire
William Tantram b 1829 Herefordshire
James Tantram b 1834 Herefordshire
George Tantram b 1837 Herefordshire
Richard Tantram b 1841 Herefordshire
Could be something and nothing, and I realise  it doesn't match your critera exactly but thought it might be worth a mention.

All the best

Z

[Gaye]

Many thanks for thinking outside the square with this Z...
and there just may be something in it.

There's an old family anecdote that George  Thornton did change his name from Tantrim having jumped ship in New Zealand....not verified of course.  His death certificate here in NZ shows the parents info and his age and place of birth - this info would have been provided by his adult children as his wife had died and he had no other family here. His marriage cert 1867  Auckland NZ  doesn't provide any info on his parents unfortunately, and shows 'full age' so doesn't help with determining his correct age.

The Tantrim/Tantram line is definitely worth keeping on the back burner for now.

Rgds
GAYE

[Gaye]

Hi

Now digging a bit deeper into the TANTRAM (sp?) family name and would
very much appreciate some info on : -

Thomas Tantrum b. abt 1795 Burford, Farmer  (son of Thomas & Jane)
wife Catherine (nee Allen) b.abt 1807???
One  known child:
Caroline b.1833 Burford m.1854 to George Bradley

Crossed fingers for some moe family members to get a foothold on this branch!

Any info much appreciated.
GAYE

[henry34]

Hi Gaye
you will be aware that a George William Thornton who died in 1924 aged 88yrs (which ties into birth date of abt 1835) married Margaret who died in 1920. Their daughter Clara Jane born 1875 married Henry Lucas in 1896 and they were living in Waihi in 1898. Henry died in 1906 aged 36 yrs.
There may have been a child who died in 1903. Do you know what happened to Clara? 

[Gaye]

Hi Henry

Sorry to say I have nothing on Clara Jane other than what you have.
How are you connected?

Best regards
GAYE

[henry34]

Hi Gaye,  Clara Jane Lucas (nee Thornton) was my great great aunt by her marriage to Henry Lucas,
There is a extract from the "Thames Star" of May 1899 about Clara helping a friend who was dying from typhoid.

regards
henry34   

[Gaye]

Reactivating this twig as I've had some contact with another seeker of the Tantrum/Thornton merge in New Zealand

Could someone please find the family of
Edwin Tantrum b.1841 or 1849 Ludlow in 41-61 Census
He married Sept 1871 Mary Banks in Ludlow


Fingers crossed here!

[garstonite]

Hiya Gaye ...I can give you both fathers  of Edwin and Mary and a little bit of info
5th september 1871 ,Ludlow
Edwin Tantrum aged 22 -b 1849 - fathers name William Tantrum
Mary Banks aged 19 - b 1852 - fathers name James Banks

did you have this info ? - if not , at least you know their birth years and fathers ...might make it easier to find them in census returns
allan