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What Happened to Snowdrop?
« on: Friday 25 June 10 14:32 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me to discover what became of

Snowdrop Gertrude Violet Brown Gregory.... yes bless her that was her name.

Born 1905, birth registered in Wandsworth.
Baptised in the parish of Ascension, Balham Hill in March 1905.

Her mother was Ethel M Gregory dob 1882. No father is registered and I have no clues to who he is. I am summizing his Surname may have been Brown as this is not one of our family names.  This must have been very difficult for her in 1905. Ethel was a music-hall actress and sister to my great grand-father.

I have no idea what became of Ethel.....it does get a bit confusing as my grand-mother was named after her and so is also Ethel Margaret Gregory.. she however was born in Feb 1905 and went on to marry Stanley Hardy in 1932.

Back to little Snowdrop....
I have her in 1911 living with her grand-mother Clarissa Pendered in Clapham.
Clarissa died 3 years later in 1914 meaning Snowdrop would only be 9 years old. I have no idea what happened to her after this.

I do have copies of 4 photographs which were amongst my late grand-mothers belongings. However, the plot thickens, written on the back of these is "Queenie". She is a mystery.... or could she be Snowdrop?

The whole family is a puzzle. Any help would be welcomed.
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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 June 10 17:06 BST (UK) »
I am trying to work backwards on this, I was searching for Ethel Margaret born, your date 1882, I cannot find a birth for that but I have found the following

The only Ethel Margaret Gregory I can find was born 21/02/1884 Fulham
Baptised 13/04/1884
St Anselm Fulham and Hammersmith
she was 1 of twins other half was Clarissa Hannah
father Harry Laurie , mother Clarissa Martha
address 10 Salisbury Terr
fathers occupation a fishmonger

The only reason I am writing about this one is the familiarity of the name CLARISSA, you stated Snowdrop was living with her grandmother Clarissa, this just popped out at me, hope I am not barking up the wrong tree

Louisa Maud

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Clarissa Margaret Gregory married Dec qtr 1899 to George Deal Pendered,
30/10/1899
George Deal Pendered 42 widow musician father Charles Deal Pendered
to
Clarissa Martha Gregory 40 widow father Thomas Cooper
St Saviours Brixton
both father's deceased
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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 June 10 17:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you Louisa

This is the right Ethel Margaret as those were her parents, my great, great grand-parents. Henry died and Clarissa married George who was a musician in the Scots Guards Band at one time.

I have obviously got the birth date wrong and had no idea she was a twin.

I have not come across young Clarissa in any census records so will need to add that to my investigations.

Thanks for assistance

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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 June 10 18:01 BST (UK) »
Hi again Louisa

Have found young Clarissa's death in first quarter of 1885.

Poor little soul.

Still now discovered will not be forgotten 
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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 June 10 19:18 BST (UK) »
1901 RG13/427, folio 60 page 5
153 ACRE LANE

George PENDERED 44 musician born Chelsea
Clarissa M 42 born Fleet St
Charles aged 12 born Pimlico
Bertram H Gregory Step son aged 20 born Regents Park
ETHEL M GREGORY step daughter aged 17 born Fulham MUSIC HALL ARTIST

Have you considered that Snowdrop and her mother might well have changed their surnames if they were in the music hall business

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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 June 10 20:40 BST (UK) »
As I can find no trace of either of them, Ethel after 1905 when Snowdrop was born, or Snowdrop after 1911, it is a distinct possibility. Especially in the world of music-hall.

I don't know how I would find out if they did.

This whole side of the family is throwing up mystery after mystery. Bertram, who you mentioned is my great grandfather. I know in 1911 cencus he was alive and kicking. By 1932 when my grandmother marries he is noted as deceased on the marriage certificate. I have looked everywhere and can find no record of his death.

Still these mysteries give me somethingto investigate.

Thanks Lousia
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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 June 10 22:43 BST (UK) »
Well I have just found Bertram Harding Gregory baptism at St Jude's kensal Green which is where I was baptised, what a coincidence

Born 04/02/1881
bapt 05/03/1882

Well I suppose all these mysteries keep you going, a family member of my husbands put DE in front of their name,  he was also a musician, they thought it sounded more theatrical

What happened to Bertram's wife Alice nee Woodall ?

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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 June 10 08:01 BST (UK) »
Hi again
Have you looked at emigrations, would Snowdrops mother have married and therefore she took on another name.

Bertram also had another daughter, have you checked on her marriage to see if Bertram is also shown as "dec".. I have tried every which way to find a death for Bertram, I entered just a christian name and then both Bertram Harding and even looking for Harding surname, no joy at all

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Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: What Happened to Snowdrop????
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 June 10 08:29 BST (UK) »
I have looked at emmigrations but could find no leads.

I have also looked at the marriage side for Ethel but as yet have not found a thing that would tie in.

At some point between 1911, I have Bertram, Violey Ivy and my gran Ethel, along with a "housekeeper" still in London, and 1932 when my gran married, the family moved to Luton.

Where Alice was in 1911 I do not know as yet. I have beem inable to locate her.

She died, I believe in 1960 in Luton. I am awaiting a copy of her death certificate to verify this.

I must admit as far as Berties death is concerned I too have tried every combination and have found zero.

Thanks for taking the time to help me on this Louisa. I have looked at it for so long I thought new eyes might find something I had missed.
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