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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #18 on: Monday 05 July 10 17:27 BST (UK) »
Could Ann Gordon who married James Fleming have been a younger sister or stepsister of Charles Gordon who married Elspet Stuart?

It's possible but this link records her father as Charles. http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/subjects/subject_people_report_view.asp?REF_ID=NM145269

I've requested a copy of that entry in the Catholic marriage register and I'll report back when I receive it.
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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #19 on: Monday 05 July 10 17:36 BST (UK) »
Could Charles' father also have been Charles, then? Have go got a death cert for him?

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Is it not available on Scotland's People to download? I thought they'd put all the RC registers on SP?
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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #20 on: Monday 05 July 10 18:24 BST (UK) »
Could Charles' father also have been Charles, then? Have go got a death cert for him?

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I've requested a copy of that entry in the Catholic marriage register

Is it not available on Scotland's People to download? I thought they'd put all the RC registers on SP?

Only the baptisms so far unfortunately.

Charles's father was John Gordon and I haven't found any brothers of his named Charles. It's quite a pickle!
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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #21 on: Monday 05 July 10 18:57 BST (UK) »
Charles's father was John Gordon and I haven't found any brothers of his named Charles. It's quite a pickle!

Sounds like it, indeed!
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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #22 on: Monday 05 July 10 18:59 BST (UK) »
Not helped by Charles having died in 1851!

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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #23 on: Monday 05 July 10 19:18 BST (UK) »
It's driving me a bit loopy but it might turn out to be quite interesting though, as if Charles Gordon of St Bridget is indeed Ann's father, it would mean I'm descended from the infamous Jacobean "Old Glenbucket", John Gordon the Laird of Glenbucket who sold his (relatively small) castle to gain funds to raise an army. After Culloden, he went back to his farm (St Bridget's at Tomintoul) and hid, while the Duke Of Cumberland's men searched for him in order to hang him. He was already an old man but he escaped and died in France as he couldn't come home. All his remaining land / assets were taken but they left his family with St Bridget's, which I think they had to rent from the Duke of Gordon.

His eldest son John stayed at the farm and died in 1753

John's eldest son William took it over, followed by William's eldest son John and John's eldest son Charles, who might be Ann's father (looks like he might not have married her mother though!)

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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #24 on: Monday 05 July 10 19:36 BST (UK) »
Sounds like you have done your research on St Bridget at Tomintoul  :) Just out of interest, if you do have the research on Charles' line (I wasn't sure if you did know his parentage although I have seen the reference to John, "Old Glenbucket"), what was the name of Charles' mother?

Do you know who Elspet Stuart's mother was?

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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #25 on: Monday 05 July 10 20:29 BST (UK) »
Sounds like you have done your research on St Bridget at Tomintoul  :) Just out of interest, if you do have the research on Charles' line (I wasn't sure if you did know his parentage although I have seen the reference to John, "Old Glenbucket"), what was the name of Charles' mother?

Do you know who Elspet Stuart's mother was?

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According to my research, Charles' mother was Lillias McHardy and Elspet Stuart's father was William Stuart of Ballantruan and her mother (his wife) was Elspet Cameron.
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Re: Gordon Kirkmichael Tomintoul
« Reply #26 on: Monday 05 July 10 20:40 BST (UK) »
So the name Ann for a daughter for Charles sits nowhere at present except connected to a first wife  :-\

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