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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 12 July 10 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hubby says 1900-1918.
Hope that helps,
Carrie Ann.
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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 12 July 10 19:28 BST (UK) »
I am assuming this part 2 of the earlier tread headed " Identify this motorcycle please?". You may therefore care to note my earlier contribution:

"Hi,

Guessing that the date for AP2994 is unlikely to have been before 1911. First BSA was introduced in 1910 and not on the market until 1911. Registration AP is East Sussex but dating data has been lost for the period. AP 2994 would be likely in about 1913. In West Sussex, next door,  the same reg for bikes is late 1915.

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Vitamin

PS.  You may also care to note that the odd number of the AP series were for cars and even numbers for motorcycles. As this is pre WW1, widespread use of motorcycles would not have commenced so numbering would be low per the early years.  Hence a later date would be more likely than earlier.


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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 12 July 10 19:39 BST (UK) »
BSA 1913 photo attached which generally matches, especially the rear wheel drive pulley.

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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 12 July 10 20:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the Photo: all your efforts much appreciated.  John
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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 13 July 10 01:05 BST (UK) »
The 1913 pictre could well be the same model, but, BSA stopped using the block brake principal on the front wheels in 1912. The system worked okay for a while, but, was comparatively useless in action, in fact a couple of minor accidents were directly atributable to the poor effect these brakes had at any speed. I suspect the pictured bike was registered in 1913, but is actually a 1911 model, sold at a later date, maybe even abroad. By 1913, all frontbrakes were of the  banded type, same with the rear as well, these were first introduced for the 'mass' market in August 1912. The block brake, which looks almost invisible on a lot of early bikes, quite often stripped the thread of the bolt, mounting it to the frame/forks, due to the forward friction of the block on the wheel rim when applied, okay on a bicycle, but a 3.5 hp motorised jobbie was an entirely different kettle of fish, thus evolution carries forwards all the time..
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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 15 July 10 21:22 BST (UK) »
I have a similar photo but luckily the plate was showing...we looked up the registration and was totally able to ID it!

Best of luck!

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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 20:43 BST (UK) »
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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 30 July 10 22:00 BST (UK) »
For my 2d worth it looks as though both the first one and the last one have bicycle type brakes on the front wheel, close to the forks.

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Re: Date of motorcycle?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 06 August 10 15:26 BST (UK) »
 I now have a reply fromVMCC to whom I sent a Photo. Their reply, quote"Exhibits features from both 1914 & 1915 models; may be a transitional model, not shown in sales catalogue. Probably single sv. four stroke 3.5 hp. Price when new about £50 " I think RootsChat experts probably know best! Thanks for all the interest
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