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** COMPLETED ** Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 10:48 BST (UK) »
I'm having trouble deciphering the Occupation on the attached Census from Fordoun, Kincardineshire in 1861.

It looks like 'Ora Horshman' and I know that farm workers here in Fife (at Least) were once known as 'Ora-men'.  Perhaps John had something to do with horses?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 July 10 11:00 BST (UK) »
That certainly is what it looks like - which isn't being very helpful is it!   ;D    Hope some 'oldtimer' from Kinkardineshire will come to the party!

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 July 10 11:03 BST (UK) »
Could it be App Fleshman

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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 July 10 21:17 BST (UK) »
I've seen 'flesher' meaning 'butcher' over a shop near Aberdeen.  Is 'fleshman' a variant?


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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 July 10 14:53 BST (UK) »
Sorry to resurrect this one folks :-\

I appreciate the input so far, but I'm no further forward with this one.  Surely there's someone out there has the answer.

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Chiad Fhear
Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited!

Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 July 10 15:03 BST (UK) »
Resolving whether the first capital letter is an H or an F would reduce the options. Are there any other words on the document, in the same hand, which begin with an F or an H to compare with?


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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 July 10 15:04 BST (UK) »
Found this website of old occupations in Scotland

http://scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm

Noticed HOUGHMAN - a farm worker??



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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 July 10 15:38 BST (UK) »
Resolving whether the first capital letter is an H or an F ...

Typical Elwyn ... just when I wanted to look at the original, the filing system let me down :P ... however, a wee bit of raking about and I've found it.

The 'F' on other entries are a little bit more 'flamboyant' (dare I say) in the lower curve.  There is one other 'H' and it looks almost identical to the one on my query.  There isn't another 'Fl' to compare it with.

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Chiad Fhear
Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited!

Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Help with occupation on 1861 Census please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 24 July 10 15:41 BST (UK) »
lol, there's shades of the way Sean Connery speaks - e.g. horse = horsh

I can't help but wonder whether the clerk has copied the original house occupancy form incorrectly.

A dictionary gives this definition of hough = shank of meat (a shank meaning "leg" = leg of meat)

I've enlarged the image and do not think the "r" in Horshman is similar to the "r" in Ora

I read it as:  Acro Hoishman

"Acro"   Height
"hoish" = To throw something with vigour.

I wondered whether the worker was expected to work at a height loading something below.  Or maybe he assembled the acros (Acro prop basically, an expanding scaffolding pole, much used in support work eg propping up a fractured lintel)
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