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Re: Pubs in Coleford and Pensford
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 15:19 BST (UK) »
evie,

Yes, the website is the correct one and I put that as it doesn't give the right impression of the size of the place, or the location/setting.

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Re: Pubs in Coleford and Pensford
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 11:29 BST (UK) »
I have found a George and Dragon in Pensford could this have been the George in 1861?
The King's head in Coleford looks quite a big house on Google View I wonder if it originally was 3 houses What do you think I can see three possible cottages now one building.
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Re: Pubs in Coleford and Pensford
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 18:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Trees,

You are correct about the King's Head in Lower Coleford, it is a substantial building. I wonder if it could have been a farmhouse originally and may be some cottages/outbuildings alongside it. All converted to one place in later years.

I cannot recall the precise date it was built but have an idea it was in the 17th century. It could be earlier.

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 21:33 BST (UK) »
Hi every one I have now located this article about the King's Head
http://old.williamjefferies.org/genealogy/Media/KingsHeadInn-Article.html
It appears to have burnt down and been rebuilt in 1830 which leaves me with yet another problem. From censuses and baptism records it appears that John Jefferies must have been the landlord straight after the fire and rebuild BUT he is a publican from 1821(baptisms of children in Mells but residence given as Kilmersdon) so which pub was he keeping before 1831? I see that there is a pub in Kilmersdon the Jolliffe Arms with conections with, of all people Judge Jefferys, Now is it a pure coincidence that my publican was a Jefferies? Or was the connection a fable based on  a half known attachment of a Jefferies with the pub? Was the Jolliffe John jefferies house 1821-1831?
Can anyone suggest how to find out about the past land lords of now four pubs
Josh how many more pubs am I going to end up with on my tree?
Hic it makes me drunk just counting them
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Re: Pubs in Coleford and Pensford
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 July 10 09:54 BST (UK) »
Hello Trees,

The article you have posted for the King's Head says that it was a pub from 1742. At the time of the fire in 1830, it was one of several pubs in the area owned by John James. It continues to say that John James moved quickly after the fire and it was rebuilt in the same year.

It would seem that John James must have put managers into some, or all, of his pubs. John Jefferies could have been one of these at this time.

I would say that it is possible John Jefferies was there pre 1830 and remained there afterwards.

The fact that he has Kilmersdon on the baptisms of his children muddies the water. The way you might locate him and the pub would be via trade, or residential directories for Kilmersdon at this time. I am sure there would be some that covered this.

I doubt any connection to Judge Jeffreys. He travelled about Somerset and sat at a number of assizes there. He was involved in the "trials"of the people involved in the Monmouth rebellion in the late 17th century.

Jo



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Re: Pubs in Coleford and Pensford
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 January 11 20:13 GMT (UK) »
hi i will ask my dad if he has any iadas about the pubs in pensford you are asking about as my famley are from the publow/pensford distrect and i would not be susprised if at some point or othere thay did not drink in eather i do have a fealing that the george was a coatching stop as it is on the main road to wells
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 January 11 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Cheers Cobb that would be great
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 19:32 GMT (UK) »
i e mailed my dad today hopefuly i will here something back from him soon

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 21:17 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Cobb I have ny fingers crossed
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