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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 15 August 10 09:42 BST (UK) »
all children baptised lower whitley cheshire to parents james harrison and mary -
thomas harrison bapt 29th jan 1843
william samuel harrison bapt 5th may 1850
betsey harrison bapt 10th april 1853
frederick harrison bapt 23rd sept 1855
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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 15 August 10 11:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Odessa.

Narrows search somewhat,
as you say just hope the stone is still standing upright.........we will see!!


Sallie
Turton            Canals     
Wood             Canals
Neale               Canals
Cartwright      Canals
Grainger          Canals


Beesley , Perry, [ West Brom and Wednesbury ]
 
Barker,  Tranter, Rich, Jones, Glover [ Midlands, Dudley ]

Darby,      Northampton/Rugby
Birtwisle   Cheshire/Shropshire

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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #29 on: Monday 16 August 10 01:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that Odessa.  Thank you for the additional information to alli. Thank you again Sallie. I will keep my fingers crossed. John.

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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #30 on: Monday 16 August 10 11:22 BST (UK) »
Success

Big standing stone. [ but grave Stones are in a shocking state....]
Turton            Canals     
Wood             Canals
Neale               Canals
Cartwright      Canals
Grainger          Canals


Beesley , Perry, [ West Brom and Wednesbury ]
 
Barker,  Tranter, Rich, Jones, Glover [ Midlands, Dudley ]

Darby,      Northampton/Rugby
Birtwisle   Cheshire/Shropshire


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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 02:09 BST (UK) »
Hello. Sorry to be a nuisance but I have another small family mystery related to boatmen. In Witton area Thomas Harrison-occupation Flatman, his son James Harrison-occupation Flatman/Waterman. His son Thomas Harrison noted in 1891 residence in Witton with family occupation Rope/Twine manufacturer. However in 1901 Thomas Harrison, wife Mary Eliza and children Lauretta, Jessie and Robert residence in Salford (Manchester Ship Canal?)-occupation waterman Barge. Is this a specific term or general for the area? P.S. It seems he eventually returned to Northwich as there is a probable death Cheshire BMD 1910! Thanks. John.

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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #32 on: Friday 27 August 10 10:26 BST (UK) »
Hi John.

 Cannot be of great help as the definition of waterman,, boatman,, flat man can get totally confusing.
 from my experience and thats not a lot.... I have Canal Boatmen in my family.They lived and worked on canal barges and they used the canal system as their highway.

 In the Northwich area we have the River Weaver. and the men that used that river had boats that were called River flats......design I expect ... the men that used those boats on the River Weaver were called Weaver flat-men. they didn't usually go on the canal and the canal men didn't usually go on the river...and until the Anderton Boat lift there was no connection between the two unless you went to the sea. [ think I am right in saying this?][ even after the connection the men didn;t redefine their names...canal was canal and flat was flat ]

The Manchester Ship canal was built in the 1800's to transport ships from the Mersey River  to the centre of Manchester.  it is like a wide Canal that first of all runs alongside the Mersey and then makes it own way to the centre of Manchester.
The ships that used it were much bigger than canal barges.[ In fact in later years huge Ocean going ships used it ... but thats another story]

surfice to say that your Thomas might well have used the Manchester Ship canal and that when asked what his occupation was on Census night he could have said that he was a Waterman [ because he worked the water system ] and that he was in charge of a Barge.....

 I don't think there is any underlying secrets about what he was or did..................he was a man that worked on the waterways of Cheshire/Lancashire and he was termed as a waterman or a flatman ...what he doesn't appear to be is a Canal Boatman.
Maybe this is some help ????
Sallie
Turton            Canals     
Wood             Canals
Neale               Canals
Cartwright      Canals
Grainger          Canals


Beesley , Perry, [ West Brom and Wednesbury ]
 
Barker,  Tranter, Rich, Jones, Glover [ Midlands, Dudley ]

Darby,      Northampton/Rugby
Birtwisle   Cheshire/Shropshire

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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 28 August 10 06:04 BST (UK) »
The information is good and appreciated. It does help. Thank you kindly, Sallie. John.

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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #34 on: Monday 31 January 11 12:35 GMT (UK) »
hi. glad to find someone looking at canal boatmen. looking into the twiggs .henry twigg worked on the cheshire canals 1855 married to mary ann hulme.not to be mixed up with twiggs from staffs,though there may be a relation somewhere .?

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Re: Canal Boatmen
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 03 February 11 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your interest.
I am afraid I haven't done much research over the past few months tending to other matters. As you may see from this subject, many people, and especially canal woman, have been a great help. There is still some confusion as to whether my ancestors were canal or river boatmen, possibly the latter from my last investigation and assistance from canal woman.
 I will be trying to start again on the matter soon. So far I haven't come across any Twigg but if I do, I will let you know.
JohnJean