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Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« on: Sunday 25 July 10 11:55 BST (UK) »
Hi there
Hoping that someone can help me with passenger look ups for the Soutter family as follows:
William Soutter born 1861 (parents James and Clementina) - I am almost certain he went to the US
John Soutter born 1863 (parents James and Clementina) - not sure
Mary Soutter born 1864 (parents James and Clementina) - Disappears from UK records after 1881
Margaret Soutter born 1866 (parents James and Clementina) - not sure
Emily Soutter born 1869 (parents James and Clementina) - Disappears from UK records after 1881
Emma Soutter born 1871 - last known in the UK 1891 (parents James and Emma)
Walter Soutter born 1873 - last known in the UK 1881(parents James and Emma)
Alexander Soutter born 1876 - last known in the UK 1891 (parents James and Emma)

James and Clementina had 3 other children who I know emigrated to the US.  They landed in NY between 1880 - 1882 and then settled in Cook, Illinois.

Many of the Soutter family seem to have vanished from the UK which makes me wonder if they followed their older siblings to the US.  Clementina died in 1870, hence the change in the mother's name to Emma following James's remarriage.

All help is hugely appreciated.
Sparkle

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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 July 10 12:05 BST (UK) »

Hi

There is an Alexander SOUTTER coming back into the UK as follows..

Mr Alexander SOUTTER aged 57 Born about 1876 Arrived UK 23rd Jan 1933 from Durban South Africa into Southampton Proposed UK Address 235 Arbroath Road Dundee Occupation Pensioner

Alexander SOUTTER aged 60 Born about 1876 Arrived UK 27th Jan 1936 from Durban South Africa into Southampton Same UK Address and Occupation

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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 July 10 12:08 BST (UK) »

This might be your Walter...

Marriage Register
St Saviour
Southwark
Nov 2nd 1902

SOUTTER Walter 31 Bachelor Labourer 5 Moss Alley Father = James SOUTTER Engineer

PHILLIPS Violet Florance Elizabeth 23 Spinster 5 Moss Alley Father = Samuel Isaac PHILLIPS Gas Fitter

Both bride and groom signed
Witnesses were Alice EPPS and Charles SOUTTER

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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 July 10 12:13 BST (UK) »

John??

Marriage Register
Holy Trinity Newington
Southwark
11th Jan 1897

SOUTTER John 32 Bachelor Occupation hard to read 55 Union Road Father = James SOUTTER Engineer

BUTLER Rose Ellen 28 Spinster 55 Union Road Father = William BUTLER Occupation Unreadable

Both bride and groom signed
Witnesses were James SOUTTER and Olice Susan REES

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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 July 10 12:17 BST (UK) »

Marriage Register
All Saints Newington
Southwark
2nd Aug 1886

RICHARDSON Thomas 19 Bachelor Sawyer 95 Thurlow Street Father = Robert RICHARDSON ( Dec ) Salesman

SOUTTER Margaret Jane 19 Spinster 9 Graylands Road Father = James SOUTTER Engineer

Both bride and groom signed
Witnesses were Robert RICHARDSON and Emma SOUTTER

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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 July 10 12:55 BST (UK) »

Border crossing from Canada to USA...
July 1913
SOUTTER William Henry 52 Male Married Gluemaker Can Read and Write. Naturalised USA Citizen March 1891 in Cook County Illinois Chicago. English.
Last Residence Cook County Illinois Chicago
UK relatives address ?? SMITH 7 Wakeman Road London Final destination Chicago Illinois

SOUTTER Sarah Ann 48 Female Married Can Read and Write. USA Citizen. English
Last Residence Cook County Illinois Chicago
All other details as above

Also found...

Into Southampton October 1890 aboard the "Trent" from Buenos Aires

SOUTTER William aged 29 Machinist
SOUTTER Sarah aged 25
SOUTTER William aged 1.5

Application for USA Passport

Cook County Illinois
SOUTTER William born London England May 4th 1861 Father = James SOUTTER born Scotland now dead.  Emigrated to USA from England Sept 1884 and resided 36 years uninterrupted in the USA from 1884 to 1920 at Chicago Illinois. Naturalised at Chicago Circuit Court 1892.  Permanent Residence 7134 Sangamon Street Chicago City Illinois, occupation Glue Maker.  Intend to leave USA aboard the "Royal George" June 25th 1920 to France and England to visit relatives in both places.

There is a photograph attached to this application and it was witnessed by his daughter Esther SOUTTER

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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 July 10 13:07 BST (UK) »

Also Passport Application for Sarah A and daughter Minnette, with photos of both

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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 July 10 13:46 BST (UK) »
Good grief - how do you do it??!!

Alexander - yob is good but I am not sure why he would have gone to S Africa when other siblings went to the US.  Also a little odd that he would be going to Dundee as family were born in Southwark, London, (although his father James was originally from Dundee).  Anyway, food for thought...
Walter - yes, I suspect you are right.  I had also found this record and I note that Charles Soutter (a brother) was a witness
John - yes, I suspect you are right.  There is a public family tree on Ancestry.co.uk that shows John with wife Rose with correct parents.
Margaret  - yes, I suspect you are right.  Father's occupation of Engineer is right and also I see that Emma Soutter (sister) was a witness
William - hummmm interesting -  The passport application details all match info that I have.  If he left to travel to France and England would there be a record of him returning?
How could I get hold of the photos??

Thanks
Sparkle





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Re: Passenger lists look up - Soutter family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 July 10 23:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Sparkle

I have sent you a PM with regards the Passport Applications.

Still trying to track down some of the girls.. they are always a problem what with change of name when marrying

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Karenlee
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