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patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« on: Wednesday 04 August 10 20:12 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find information for my Gr Gr Grandmother who was listed in the 1901 census as a patient in the Cheshire Lunatic Asylum.  I would like to find out when she was admitted, when she was discharged and why she was there. 

Can anyone advise me on where I could look?  Or better still if could someone local have a look for me as I am in Northern Ireland and can't get across to check it out myself.

Her name was Alice Gardner.

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Re: patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 August 10 20:18 BST (UK) »
There is no Alice Gardner with that profile on the 1901 for Cheshire
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Re: patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 August 10 09:51 BST (UK) »
Hello soeedwobble,

The information you require will only be accessed in the Cheshire Record Office which holds the records for the Chester Asylum, known locally as "The Deva".

Records are normally closed for 100 years and you would need to prove your relationship to see these possibly.

It is likely to be a time consuming task and I doubt that you will succeed in getting a volunteer but you never know. It might be more viable to ask the RO to research this for you.

I might be able to find her on the census, most patients of asylums are identified by their initials only. I can find a few AG initials for the Chester asylum but don't have enough information to see which might be her. Do you have a year and place of birth?

Jo


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Re: patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 August 10 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hi, Speedwobble, I found details of a great, great aunt who was a patient from 1881 to her death in 1911.  I found her in the admission registers, which are held by the Cheshire Archives and Record Office as stated by Jo Harding.  If Alice was admitted pre- 1910 then I might be able to find her in one of these.  They don't give a great deal of information, but do show name, age, condition on admission and who signed the papers for her admission.  Do you have any idea when she was admitted?
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Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork


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Re: patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 August 10 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi, Speedwobble, please could you give some more information on Alice e.g. birth year, birth place?
As CaroleW has noted, I too cannot find her in Cheshire in 1901.  Is this the correct year and do you have a census reference for her please?
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Kathb
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Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Re: patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 August 10 13:29 BST (UK) »
Hi

Cheshire had two county Lunatic asylums

Details of the records held and where - the clinical and patient casebook records are the most informative

Countess of Chester Hospital (present name still open in Chester) 

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1173&hospital=west+cheshire&town=&searchdatabase.x=103&searchdatabase.y=14

Parkside Hospital Macclesfield (final name now closed)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1063&hospital=parkside&town=&searchdatabase.x=64&searchdatabase.y=16


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Valda
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Re: patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 19:59 BST (UK) »
Hi, Speedwobble, there were two asylums noted as Cheshire.  One in Chester and one in Macclesfield. I note that your Alice was in Macclesfield area in 1911 therefore in the Maccelsfield (Parkside Asylum) .  Do you want me to look at what is available on my next trip to the Cheshire Archives?
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Kathb
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Patient in the Cheshire Lunatic Asylum Macclesfield
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 February 15 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I'm looking for information on my relative, Elizabeth Moore, who is listed in 1881 census in "Cheshire County Lunatic Asylum" in Macclesfield. Would anyone have access to, and be willing to do a lookup at the records that might give details about why she was there and who signed the paperwork to place her there or any other information that might help fill in the gaps?

Thanks so much,
Brenda
MOORE, LAW, SANDFORD, DELANEY

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Re: patient Cheshire Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 February 15 06:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brenda

The Macclesfield Asylum records are now on line.
I've just had a quick look and I did see case notes for an Elizabeth Moore  :)

http://archive.cheshire.gov.uk/calmview/
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